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|Oct-08-09|| ||Marmot PFL: Tricky problem. In a game I would have been happy to grab the pawn with 19 Qxf5 and missed this completely.|
|Oct-08-09|| ||mollyboo: What an inspired move - and found over the board! Quite sickening to realise I'll never be that good.|
|Oct-08-09|| ||kevin86: my move was Qf3,but I guess it was just second best to the text-but it will win.|
|Oct-08-09|| ||zanshin: Wow, <19.Qh1> is good. I went with 19.Qf3 which still seems to be winning, but is obviously not as strong.|
Rybka 3, top three moves:
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[+4.79] d=18 19.Qh1 Qf6 20.Bg5 Qxe5 21.Rxe5 hxg5 22.Rxg5 Be7 23.Rh5 Bf6 24.Qf3 Bc6 25.Bh7 Kf8 26.Be4 Bxe4 27.Rh8 Ke7 28.Rxe8 Kxe8 29.Qxe4 c6 30.Qd3 Kf8 31.c5 b5 32.a4 (0:59.28) 538496kN
[+3.19] d=18 19.Qf3 Qf6 20.c5 Qe7 21.Rb4 b5 22.Bxb5 Bxb5 23.Rxb5 f6 24.Rxa5 fxe5 25.Bxe5 c6 26.Qe4 Qb7 27.Qg6 Re7 28.Bd6 Rf7 29.Qxe6 Rd8 30.f4 Ra8 31.Be5 Be7 (1:06.33) 588530kN
[+1.89] d=17 19.Qg2 Qf6 20.c5 Qd8 21.g4 Qxh4 22.Qe4 (0:56.13) 518334kN
|Oct-08-09|| ||pittpanther: Rats I missed it, went with Qf3 instead of Qh1. Nice puzzle.|
|Oct-08-09|| ||whiteshark: <19.Qh1> is a very fine backward move. If <19...Qf6> (all queen sacrifices vs 2 minor pieces are lost), then <20.Bg5> wins. Now <20... hxg5 21.hxg5> shows a nice side effect putting the queen on the h-file.|
|Oct-08-09|| ||hedgeh0g: I completely missed Qh1!, focusing entirely on Qf3. Just goes to show how many moves we ignore just because they're unusual.|
|Oct-08-09|| ||Samagonka: OK, I must admit I only saw the sense in white's Qh1 when I read some of the comments...brain strain!|
|Oct-08-09|| ||Patriot: Great puzzle! There were so many threatening moves for white, but decided on Qf3 and never considered Qh1 although it's a serious threat as well. Qf3 just looked more versatile and active, but solid analysis always wins out in the long run.|
|Oct-08-09|| ||jcb: So where is the win after 19. Qh1 Bc6? I admit, I don't see it.|
Chris in Moorpark
|Oct-08-09|| ||guaguanco: 19...Bc6 20.f3 springs to mind|
|Oct-08-09|| ||VincentL: This was a good puzzle.
Simple once you see it, so Thursday level is correct.
But it defeated 9 out of 10 posters on here, and from the comments many (including myself) did not even consider Qh1.
|Oct-08-09|| ||Athamas: I can't keep track, but have all the puzzles this week been 1-move wonders?|
|Oct-08-09|| ||YouRang: Without looking, I guessing that I'm not the only one who went with 19.Qf3. I never looked at 19.Qh1, but I admit that it's inspired.|
Still, 19.Qf3 Qf6 20.Ng4 Qe7 springs 21.Bxh6! (I gave it an exclam, but anyone could smell it coming) 21...gxh6(?) 22.Nf6+ Kg7 23.Qe4! (threatening Nh5+ and Qh7#).
If 23...Qxf6, then 24.Qh7#; If 23...Kxf6 24.Qe5#. Black has no good way out of this.
|Oct-08-09|| ||gawain: I figured out that the White queen should move but I only thought of 19 Qf3 which doesn't work. Qh1 is really nice. <Dzechiel> does his usual excellent job of explaining it all.|
|Oct-08-09|| ||wals: |
Analysis by Rybka 3 1-cpu:
1. (4.34): 19.Qh1 Qf6 20.Bg5 Qxe5 21.Rxe5 hxg5 22.Qf3 c5 23.hxg5 g6 24.d5 exd5 25.Rxe8 Rxe8 26.cxd5 c4 27.Qf4 cxd3 28.Qxa4 Re2 29.Rd1 Bc5 30.Rxd3 Rxf2 31.Kh1 Nb7 32.Qxa7 Nd6 33.g4 Rf1+ 34.Kh2
2. (2.41): 19.Qf3 Qf6 20.c5 a6 21.cxb6 cxb6 22.Bxa6 Rb8 23.Ng4 Qd8 24.Bxb8 Qxb8 25.Bd3 Bc6 26.Qf4 Qxf4 27.gxf4 Rc8 28.Rxb6 Bf3 29.Ne5 Rxc3 30.Rb5 Nc6
I went for Qf3.)
|Oct-08-09|| ||realbrob: <gawain> 19.Qf3 does work, and it was clearly shown by all the engine analyses above. It isn't the real solution because it's not the best move for White..|
|Oct-08-09|| ||WhiteRook48: I tried 10 Qf3|
|Oct-08-09|| ||gawain: Thanks, <realbrob> and <YouRang> and others. 19 Qf3 is actually nifty. I gave up too soon when I saw the black queen getting away. Should have had confidence in the attack. <YouRang>'s note had not yet come up when I wrote mine|
|Oct-08-09|| ||Check It Out: I kept looking at Qf3 but couldn't make the bishop attack on g5 work out. Just when I gave up and clicked on the game link to look I realized that if the queen dropped back to h1 the h pawn retake on g5 would be a double attack on the queen and mate on h7!|
|Oct-08-09|| ||NARC: It took me ages to find the pawn grab. I was looking for something different.
I also think there should be two exclamation marks for Qh1. It's so beautiful.|
|Oct-08-09|| ||Nasruddin Hodja: Somebody in chessgames.com must have read my brainwaves. I solved this one yesterday only after bashing my head against for days, looking at lines starting with 19. Qg2, 19. Qe3, and 19. Qf3. |
It was only after I looked at the line 19. Qg2 Qh5 20. Qh3 Be7, saving the queen, that my head exploded and I realized that the enemy queen could be trapped with 19. Qh1 Qh5 20 g4!, with 19. Qh1 Qf6 running into 20. Bg5! hxg5 21. hxg5, winning the queen due to the mating threat on h7.
Where was I looking at this position? In Jacob Aagard's _Excelling at Chess Calculation_, exercise 12. A must for people who are looking to improve their tactics...
|Oct-08-09|| ||Sneaky: This is the kind of move you expect to see in a composition.|
|Oct-08-09|| ||Phony Benoni: Nasty!|
|Oct-08-09|| ||antharis: Im too dumb today! ^^
I can only say that I think it has something to do with 19. Qf3 attacking the black queen, which must retreat to f6. But after that I cant see any forced continuation. :(
Or is it the simple pawn-winning
19. Qxf5 exf5 20. Bxf5? ^^ LOOOL.
Shame on me ^^ Time to check.
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