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Nov-25-06
 | | virginmind: ah, ok, kramnik decided the draw by Knight taking black pawn... |
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| Nov-25-06 | | fgh: Draw official. |
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| Nov-25-06 | | svbabu: Ah!! Look at the clock! Human are better than silicons in the ENDGAMES. |
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| Nov-25-06 | | Edwin Meyer: 42. N*b6? 42. Nxb6 you mean? 42. Nxb6 would have meant a draw as well. |
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Nov-25-06
 | | Open Defence: <Will that be drawfritz or deepdraw? I like deepdraw> no a technical draw ;-p |
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| Nov-25-06 | | socratead: Deep Fritz played a with a psychological approach this first game... I hope DF will win the match for his morale to increase. |
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| Nov-25-06 | | Dionyseus: <code13> <If Fritz sees this in a tablebase, shouldn't Fritz be moving virtually instantly now?> As part of the match conditions, Fritz is only allowed to use 5 piece tablebases, so in the computer's mind it's not seeing the whole picture and that's why it's not moving instantly. |
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Nov-25-06
 | | chessgames.com: Thanks to everybody for coming by today. The next game will be Monday (tomorrow is a rest day) at 9:00am USA/Eastern. |
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Nov-25-06
 | | Peligroso Patzer: I believe I read somewhere that DF is restricted to five-unit tablebases, which means it is still needing to calculate in order find moves in the position after 46. Kc6. Although the position is clearly drawn, computers sometimes make strange choices in these simple positions, so it is reasonable for Kramnik to continue. If the minor pieces were to be exchanged, and if Black only got its pawn to the 7th after White's a-pawn had promoted, an e-pawn on the seventh (unlike an a-, c-, f- or h-pawn) cannot draw against a Queen. One or two strange moves by DF could bring about such a position. |
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Nov-25-06
 | | technical draw: Well drawnik vs. deepdraw....actually I enjoyed this game. |
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| Nov-25-06 | | cuendillar: Kramnik kept it with him all the time - it's a tie! (And a blue one, judging from the chessbase pictures) |
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Nov-25-06
 | | Sneaky: Well done Vlad. |
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| Nov-25-06 | | popski: Yooho!! I get some buck$! :) |
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| Nov-25-06 | | syracrophy: Finally! A dead end! Ladies and gentlemen, now we can go to sleep in peace |
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| Nov-25-06 | | fgh: Isn't it amazing that during this game Fritz checked approximately 110 000 000 000 positions and yet Kramnik drew? :-) |
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| Nov-25-06 | | ARK84: 42. Nxb6 its a win, after knight and bishop are exhanged white pawn advances easily first! |
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Nov-25-06
 | | Marmot PFL: <ARK84> Both sides queen, that white queens a move first is inconsequential. |
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| Nov-25-06 | | cuendillar: <42.Nxb6> is no win. White gets first, but not enough so. 42.Nxb6 Bxb6 43.Kxb6 f5! 44.a5 f4(or fxe4, it doesn't matter)45.a6 f3 46.a7 f2 48.a8=Q f1=Q ½-½ |
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| Nov-25-06 | | Jakobicek: what remains unclear to me is whether kramnik really could have won this around move 30... in the commentary seirawan suggested a e3,f3,g3,h2 kingside setup... |
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Nov-25-06
| | Peligroso Patzer: <ARK84: 42. N*b6 would have been win for white! anyone with me> I also liked 42. Nxb6, but two observations are in order here: (1) In difficult endgames where there are two strong candidate moves, when I finally reach the conclusion that choice "A" is best, Kramnik invariably seems to play choice "B"; and (2) Kramnik's rating is many hundreds of points higher than mine. Nevertheless, I look forward to definitive analysis of that move (42. Nxb6). |
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| Nov-25-06 | | Confuse: congratulations kramnik for drawing the monster! |
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| Nov-25-06 | | syracrophy: <positionalgenius><lazydaisy> Now, who asked for a game? :-) See me at my forum at Christian Abel Ramirez. See ya |
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| Nov-25-06 | | fgh: Just for those interested in perfection: 42. Nxb6 f5 43. exf5 Kxf5 44. a5 e4 45. a6 Bxb6 46. Kxb6 e3 47. a7 e2 48. a8=Q e1=Q 49. Qd5+ Qe5 50. Kc5 :-) |
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| Nov-25-06 | | Laskerschueler: Probably the moves 30.a4 and 31.h3 are more critical than Nxf6. After these moves the evaluation of the computer had dropped, and the commentators who had no computer also lost their optimism at that point. |
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| Nov-25-06 | | Ybrevo: This was a dead-end draw from around move 27, but I admire Kramniks will to check out the guts of the silicon-endgame technique. Nothing to loose - but a good deal of experience for future games to gain. I really look forward to the next ones. |
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