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Vladimir Kramnik vs Deep Fritz (Computer)
Kramnik vs Deep Fritz (2006)  ·  Catalan Opening: Open Defense. Alekhine Variation (E03)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Nov-29-06
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  technical draw: No, I don't mean the GAMES are pre-arranged (move for move) but the final results. It could (legally) be agreed that the final result would be 3-3. What I want to know if anyone knows for sure either way.
Nov-29-06
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  Sneaky: You're being incredibly pedantic. I said "become accepted" not "become invented." I have maybe 20 or 25 chess books published prior to 1950 and none of them use algebraic notation. Even in the 1970's it was an exception, not the rule. The fact that Lasker used it on a scoresheet (and not in his books!) is a far cry from demonstrating that it was accepted. If you're trying to take pedantry to new heights, taking offhand comments and picking them apart for accuracy, at least wait for one that's actually inaccurate!
Nov-29-06  euripides: I think German players used algebraic notation from at least the nineteenth century, and I would guess Russians also did. I can't find a web reference to check this, but http://www.excaliburelectronics.com... gives some information.
Nov-29-06
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  acirce: Why on earth should Alekhine be expected to use the notation used in the US? I guess <Sneaky> thinks the metric system is not yet fully accepted.
Nov-29-06
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  Sneaky: This discussion of the spread of algebraic notation is fascinating and I invite anybody knowledgeable in the subject to fill me in the at Sneaky chessforum. But not here.
Nov-29-06  catbet: I predict a Catalan opening.
Nov-29-06
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  Honza Cervenka: <Sneaky: You're being incredibly pedantic. I said "become accepted" not "become invented." I have maybe 20 or 25 chess books published prior to 1950 and none of them use algebraic notation.> I have some 50 books published prior or about 1950 and none of them use descriptive notation. Well, none of them is American nor English. Only Czech, German or Russian...
Nov-29-06
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  chessgames.com: Good morning chess fans! The game should start in just a few minutes.
Nov-29-06  flapjack: Rumor has it that team Topalov is going to log a last minute protest with FIDE, demanding that Fritz be unplugged and run on batteries during the match...
Nov-29-06
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  WannaBe: Bloody 6 AM games... Where's my ^%$^!! cup of coffee?
Nov-29-06  Mateo: Vlad, don't get fooled again. Don't forget: many pretenders are thinking every time you are mated : who's next?
Nov-29-06
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  Hoozits: I'd like to see an exchange variation here.
Nov-29-06
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  Domdaniel: I predict: on the first sortie, the White King's Knight shall move to ye King's Bishop's third Square.
Nov-29-06
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  Sneaky: Oh gee whiz another Catalan. Black has already achieved equality.
Nov-29-06
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  Domdaniel: Gadzooks. More chessgroats down the privy.
Nov-29-06  Mateo: Catalan opening again. Maybe this is a tribute to Catalonia. Could it be that Kramnik is an Orwell fan?
Nov-29-06
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  Robin01: 9.Ne5 looks interesting.
Nov-29-06
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  Robin01: 9.Ne5 is probably some type of deep trap by black.
Nov-29-06  Mateo: <Domdaniel> When I look to your eye, I think Big Sister is watching me.
Nov-29-06
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  Chessgames Bookie: <ChessBookie Players> We set up "midgame betting" for the Kramnik-Fritz. We will close the betting manually when Black makes its 18th move.

You're allowed to place bets right now, but that might be foolhardy. You should wait and see how the opening works out, then take a position when the game approaches move 18.

In the event that the game ends before the 18th move, we will refund all tickets.

Kramnik vs Deep Fritz: Rd. 3: Midgame Betting

Nov-29-06  Mateo: <Robin01: 9.Ne5 is probably some type of deep trap by black.> 9...Nd5. Where is the trap then?
Nov-29-06
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  Sneaky: ALRIGHT I WAS WRONG!!! I WAS WRONG ALREADY!!! Can we watch the game now?
Nov-29-06
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  Rjam: Does 9.dxc5 Bxc5; 10.Nd4 create problems for Black as the Rook has no square to avoid the c6 Knight fork?
Nov-29-06
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  acirce: <Can we watch the game now?>

Yes, but let me just point out that YOU WERE WRONG!!!

This is perhaps the first time in the match Kramnik is thinking this long this early.

Nov-29-06
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  chrisowen: b6 is strongest
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