Vladimir Kramnik vs Deep Fritz (Computer) (2006)

Vladimir Kramnik vs Deep Fritz (Computer)
Kramnik vs Deep Fritz (2006) · Nimzo-Indian, 4.e3 (E51) · 1/2-1/2

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Dec-03-06		thegoodanarchist: Rd5 with the idea of Re5, maybe?

Dec-03-06		Knight13: Topalov went over-agressive and he losted the match because every time he played he thought he could win win by "a pawn down." lol.... If it doesn't work, it just doesn't work!

Dec-03-06		Knight13: ...a6

Dec-03-06		euripides: <seraphina> isolated doubed pawns matter if (a) they can't be dissolved and (b) they can be attacked or(c) the square in front of them can be exploited or (d) they are part of a pawn majority and therefore reduce the chances of creating a passed pawn in an endgame. In this case Black may get f5 in and even if he doesn't the pawns don't look easy to attack; f5 would be a beautiful square for a knight but is less enticing when White has no knight. See the link someone posted to Geller-Spassky for an example

Dec-03-06		Eyal: My Fritz was expecting 19.Rd5 - it seems to think that after 19.Rd3 b5 the position is almost totally equal.

Dec-03-06		Honza Cervenka: Quite interesting line seems to be 19.Rd5 Bc6 20.Re5 Rd7 21.Rh4 Rd2 22.Bf3 Rxf2 23.Be2 Rxg2 24.Rexe4 Bxe4 25.Rxe4 click for larger view

Dec-03-06		Rocafella: Isn't that a wasted mov after Bc2

Dec-03-06		Chess Classics: <Anyone else having problems with Firefox?> I'm using it and it works fine.

Dec-03-06		azaris: Fritz gets a passer after ...b5. Engines go for that like flies to honey.

Dec-03-06		Knight13: <Honza Cervenka> I prefer Black's position for your line.

Dec-03-06		Eyal: <Rocafella: Isn't that a wasted mov after Bc2> No, because then after Rd5 black doesn't have Bc6.

Dec-03-06		Rocafella: <Eyal> I see, but does it matter that the white rook can't be kicked out of d5 with Bc6, as it's not doing much there really...?

Dec-03-06		Honza Cervenka: <My Fritz was expecting 19.Rd5 - it seems to think that after 19.Rd3 b5 the position is almost totally equal.> This is the engine's evaluation. But after 19...b5 20.Rd5 bxc4 21.Bxc4 I would definitely prefer white.

Dec-03-06		Eyal: <Rocafella> Actually, maybe it has more to do with the b5 break - black can't do that with the bishop on c2.

Dec-03-06		euripides: <19...b5 20.Rd5> does 20...Bb3 work ?

Dec-03-06		technical draw: Kramnik NEVER does what I think he should do. I mean NEVER.

Dec-03-06		Knight13: <<19...b5 20.Rd5> does 20...Bb3 work ?> Then who would wanna play Rd5?

Dec-03-06		Rocafella: <Eyal> I was thinking after Bc2 and the rook moves, black could have playd Rb8 followed by b5 but the game must be better...I'm not a GM lol

Dec-03-06		dakgootje: firefox working here fine too btw

Dec-03-06		raybagley: what is firefox?

Dec-03-06		Rocafella: Also with Rb8 some pressure is put on the white bishop, especially if white declines to take the pawn somehow.

Dec-03-06		dakgootje: <What is firefox?> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox ;-)

Dec-03-06		Per: <Knight13: <<19...b5 20.Rd5> does 20...Bb3 work ?> Then who would wanna play Rd5?> What else? Seems like Fritz gets a dangerous passer here..

Dec-03-06		Knight13: What about Bf3?

Dec-03-06		crafty: 20. cxb5 xb5 21. d5 xe2 22. xe2 f6 23. c1 = (eval -0.19; depth 14 ply; 125M nodes)

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