|Dec-11-06|| ||Phony Benoni: In "The Golden Treasury of Chess", Horowitz gives the game ending with 24.Rc8!!! One can only wish that is what happened.|
|Dec-12-06|| ||SBC: <Phony Benoni>
I notice that too.
Horowitz is definitely wrong then?
|Dec-13-06|| ||Phony Benoni: <SBC> I don't know for sure, but it seems likely that when there is a conflict between a beautiful and a prosaic ending the latter is more likely correct.|
|Dec-13-06|| ||SBC: <Phony Benoni>
Thanks. That's a good observation.
Horowitz called 24. R-B8!!!! "one of the most amazing winning moves on record" and I tended to agree with him... except, now I learn it's not necessarily "on record."
|Dec-13-06|| ||Resignation Trap: Bronstein <not> playing <<24.Rc8!!>>? Are you sure?|
If it were some player other than <Bronstein>, I would have an easier time believing the given score.
|Dec-14-06|| ||Chessdreamer: More about this tournament:
|Dec-14-06|| ||Phony Benoni: <Chessdreamer> Interesting! A great tournament for Sokolsky, defeating Boleslavsky, Tolush and Bronstein along the way.|
The file of games includes Bronstein--Goldenov with the 24.Qf4 ending.
|Jan-04-07|| ||the idiot prince: According to W.H. Golombek in the Penguin Handbook of Chess (1969 reprint ed., pp. 68-69, diagram 66)the final move by Bronstein is R-B8!|
|Feb-15-07|| ||Aspirador: The position is so completely won for white. It seems unlikely that Bronstein would spend a lot of time looking for a move like 24.Rc8. Probably just a legend.|
|Aug-20-10|| ||Everett: What is another winning line for white?|
|Aug-20-10|| ||Phony Benoni: Position after <23...Qd8>
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<Everett> The alternate winning method is 24.Qf4 attacking the queen, followed by 25.a4 and the knight is trapped, but dares not move anyway because of the threat of 26.Rc7. That was the version originally given on this page, but I see the score has been changed to the <24.Rc8> ending.
<Aspirador> This was not a hard move to find, and probably required less calculation from Bronstein that 24.Qf4 would have. Were it a chessgames.com puzzle, I wouldn't expect to see it later than Wednesday or Thursday. Brilliance does not always equal difficulty.
The basic idea of <24.Rc8> is well known. When a queen or rook sits on the back rank defending mate, moving an unprotected rook to the rank may pin the protecting piece, causing it to lose control of the mating square. Here's one of many, many examples, from Harrwitz vs Szen, 1851:
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And <19.Re8!> is essentially the same idea as Bronstein's <24.Rc8>. He adds a couple of little extra tricks, but would have had no trouble finding the move.
|Nov-22-10|| ||sevenseaman: Bronstein had the right tools and a ripe moment to push for a sharp win.|
|Dec-28-10|| ||thickhead: If on the same page 24.Qf4 had appeared before, chessgames.com team would tell us why score was changed. They must be having a very strong reason to do so|
|Dec-28-10|| ||thickhead: With 2 rooks doubled on c file Bronstein might always had attack on c8 in mind all the while. So at this juncture where mate at e7 is also a posibility,hitting on 24.Rc8 was not hard to see and players want publicity with bizarre moves and also with desire to end the game quickly and forcefully. Hence 34.Rc8 might have been played.|