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Anita Misetane Burjan vs Kornelia Albert
Hungary (1992)  ·  Sicilian Defense: Closed Variation (B26)  ·  0-1
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Apr-29-09  MiCrooks: I spotted Bb5 quickly after spending a few seconds on Re1. I assume from the discussion that this is right, as the Java applet is not loading for me.
Apr-29-09
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  mig55: Thickasabrick, it leaves you with a minus of 3 pawns!
Apr-29-09  2ndNature: <Thickasabrick31>
It *is* loosing since after

31. Rxe1 Bb5+ 32. c4 Qxe1+ 33. Kxe1 Bxa6 34.cxd5

you get


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Apr-29-09  LimSJ: White would have fared better after capturing the Knight on c6 with 28.Nc6 instead of 28.Qc6, right?
Apr-29-09  Manic: Ahh I fell for the 30...Re1+ trap as well.

<Thickasabrick31> Although it does not drop a piece it still looks losing because black is two passed pawns down after the d pawns are exchanged.

Apr-29-09
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  Once: I think we have just demonstrated the chess version of poker's check-raise or maybe the raise-fold. Let's call it the Tweazy-oops.

1. Quick glance at today's problem on my way to work. Wednesday, so shouldn't be too hard. Ah yes, this is tweazy - 30...Re1+ deflect the rook, 31...Bb5+ fork king and queen. 1-0. Next.

2. Oops. 32. c4 blows our combination out of the water.

So there you have it, folks - a new word to add to the lexicon of chess. Not only can we baffle the outside world with our zwischenzugs and zugwangs (great scrabble scores both), we can now casually throw into the conversation that we were winning the game by miles until we made a tweazyoops on move 32...

I'll now go away and do something that I am moderately good at ... driving a desk. And all through the day, my colleagues will wonder why I look so glum and keep muttering the words "32. c4!" and "tweazyoops" and other choice imprecations too dark for a family website.

It's a gift or a curse. Or both, I suppose.

Apr-29-09  cheeseplayer: how about:
30.. Bxd4
31. cxd4 Re1+
32. Rxe1+ bb5+
33. axb5 (forced or else checkmate) Qxb5+

Q vs. B+R with better attack for black!?

Apr-29-09  Babar47: cheeseplayer: no.

30...Bxd4??
31.Qxe2 wins the rook outright.

Apr-29-09  nuwanda:
hi <cheeseplayer>, maybe 31.Qxe2 ?
Apr-29-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  agb2002: White is two pawns ahead and threatens 31.Qxe2 and 31.Bxd5. However, the exposed position of the white king and his alignment with the queen along a diagonal which can be controlled by Black's LSB suggest 30... Re1+ 31.Rxe1 Bb5+:

A) 32.Qxb5 Qxb5+
A.1) 33.Kg1 Qxa5 34.g4 Qxc3 - +.
A.2) 33.Re2 Re8 34.Bf3 Rxe2 35.Bxe2 Qxa5 36.g4 Ne7 - +.

B) 32.Kg1 Qxe1+ 33.Kh2 Qxh1+ 34.Kxh1 Bxa6 - +.
C) 32.Re2 Qxe2+ 33.Kg1 Bxa6 - +.
D) 32.c4 Bxa6 33.Rxe8+ Rxe8 34.Bxd5 + -.

The saving move 32.c4 would be impossible if we change the move order. Therefore, 30... Bb5:

A) 31.Qxb5 transposes to the previous line A.
B) 31.Rxb5 (or other queen move) Re1#.

I have considered other moves (if White's DSB were not protecting the squares e3 and g3 then 30... Rxf2+ 31.Kg1 (31.Kxf2 Qe3+ 32.Kf1 Nxg3#) Qe3) but haven't found anything stronger.

Apr-29-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  SamAtoms1980: After 30 ... Re1+ 31 Rxe1 Bb5+ the game is ov--

<*scuff*>

Wha----?!?! AAAAGGGHHHHHH!!!!! NOOOOOoooooo!!!!

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

*TOPPLE*

Apr-29-09  nuwanda:

i, too, had 30...Re1+ as the solution. i had just a quick look at the position, didnt check it or look for alternatives, i do not claim solving these puzzles properly...just having fun...

the whole thing (30...Re1+) "works" not because 31...Bb5+ wins the queen at once (you have already given a rook away and your own queen is under attack), but because after the "only" move 32.Kg1 (besides 32.Qxb5, which looses queen and knight) you have the zwischenzugs 32...Qxe1+ and 33...Qxh1+. when you realize this, you, in natural way, come back to the existential question is 32.Kg1 really the only move, then everything is obvious and the standard modus operandi (changing the move order) leeds to success...

Apr-29-09  IM A SUPER GM: good morning! might i beg the honour of introducing myself to you!
Apr-29-09  IM A SUPER GM: i am a super gm, and i am the greatest. i have an incredibly dynamic style
Apr-29-09  nuwanda:

i'm surprised to read in your profile "one of the most brilliant players"...

Apr-29-09  IM A SUPER GM: please dont e. I am. I am one of the strongest players in Asia.
Apr-29-09  gofer: searched for ages... ...again making life far too complicated for myself... ...then realised it was an "Easy" Wednesday, so we are looking for the the killer blow, not a complex combination...

in which case Bb5 came up almost straight away, but only because I had been looking at everything else pretty deeply... ...so no points for speed...

:-(

Apr-29-09  Stream118: Although Bb5 wins easily, i looked at Re1+, i don't think its lost for black even after Rxe1, Bxa6 Rxe8 Rxe8 Bxd5 Rd8, threatening taking the bishop.

If black plays Ke1 then either Bxd4 or Nxd4 gives black counterplay against the white king and losse knight on a5

Apr-29-09  krisxch: Bb5-if Qb5- re1x -re1-qb5x-kg1-or re2-Qa5 ok winning
Apr-29-09  zb2cr: I considered 30. ... Re1+, but managed to see that it was futureless quite quickly. So, after going back to the drawing board, I soon hit on 30. ... Bb5,

The Bishop has to be captured, as now it's threatening 31. ... Re1# (double check makes this mate). 31. Rxb5 is clearly silly, because of 31. ... Re1#. 31. Qxb5, Re1+; 32. Rxe1, Qxb5+ and Black wins the White Knight on a5. He is then ahead by Q vs. R+2P--a long-drawn-out win, to be sure, but quite certain.

Apr-29-09  gtgloner: Looks like 30. ... Re1+ 31. Rxe1 (forced) Bb5+ forking the White royalty. Let's see.
Apr-29-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  sfm: <Dr. J: 30.-,Rb8 is better than ... 34.-,Qe3 and there is at least a 1-in-10,000 chance White will panic and allow mate on f2.> I guess that could make some sense. Raise odds to 50-50 if the White player is the one from yesterdays GOTD...
Apr-29-09  CHESSTTCAMPS: White is up two pawns, but has paid a heavy price for that gain: The rooks do not connect and as a result there is a concealed back-rank weakness. Apparently, white's last move was either Qa6 (perhaps Qxa6) or Kf1, forcing black to move the rook or find something better. In a blitz game, I would perhaps play 30...Rxa2 reflexively. In a tournament game with plenty of time on the clock, I would expect to find:

30....Bb5!

A nice setup for a hook-and-ladder trick! Now 31.Rxb5 (or any Q move other than Qxb5) allows Re1#!

31.Qxb5 Re1+
32.Rxe1 Qxb5+

Now the knight on a5 also falls, so white should resign now if he hasn't already.

Apr-29-09  amathus: I feel amathus estupidus. I could not get it. But I am impressed!
Apr-29-09
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  whiteshark: <If you see a good move look for a better one.> Maybe I'll do that next time before opting for a move like 30...Re1+.
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