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Herbert Seidman vs Walter Shipman
"Ship in a Bottle" (game of the day Dec-29-2007)
47th US Open (1946), Pittsburgh, PA USA, rd 5, Jul-18
Spanish Game: Closed Variations. Worrall Attack Castling line (C86)  ·  1-0


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  ruyfanatic: I like the variation of the Ruy Lopez where you take the C6 knight because it wins a pawn and you give black doubled pawns. Why move the bishop to B5 if you aren't prepared to take?
Dec-29-07  blitzkriege: <ruyfanatic:> In the Ruy Lopez Exchange Variation, black does NOT lose a pawn through a cute little maneuver:

4.♗xc6 dxc6
5.♘xe5 ♕d4

After 5...Qd4:

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The double attack on pawn and knight wins back the pawn.

Dec-29-07  apple pi: <blitzkriege> I used to get the pawn back with 5...♗d6 and 6...♕e7, but 5...♕d4 looks better because of the check. Thanks!
Dec-29-07  Eficko: I think 5...Qg5 is the best way to reply if white is stupid enough to take the pawn
Dec-29-07  wouldpusher: <5...Qg5> 6. ♘f3 ♕xg2 7. ♖g1 ♕h3 8. ♖g3 and Black loses more time in the opening because of the ♕ being constantly threatened.

36. ♖xg7! wins a lot faster. 36. ... ♕xg7 (forced) 37. ♗h5+

38. ♖a7 is also a winning move.

Dec-29-07  sallom89: nice mate :O
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  Strongest Force: Walter Shipman gave me the dubious title: "Park Master". A few years later his 16-year-old daughter, Judit, wouldn't leave me alone at the chess tournaments (she was like a groupy). Last i heard, Walter and his wife left NYC and retired to California.
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  patzer2: Without a strong chess program available (visiting relatives over the Holidays), I can't tell if the entire sequence after 28. Qc6! is enirely forced (does Black have a saving resource?). However, it is one of the most amusing attacks on a weak King position I've ever seen.
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  Jim Bartle: patzer2: Your chess program is visiting relatives? I wonder what holiday traditions they celebrate...
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  kevin86: I saw a simpler conclusion: 38 ♖xe7+ ♕xe7 39 ♕xc8+ followed by ♕xa6. White would be ahead a piece,but with a lot of work left.
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  jperr75108: Nice game.
Dec-29-07  belgradegambit: Herb Seidman passed away some years ago. He spent his life working for the American Cancer Society. He very much disliked Fischer as a person. He lived in Brooklyn not far from me and I was a friend of his younger son. He was a very strong player. Here's a nice demolition of Reshevsky Seidman vs Reshevsky, 1959
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  Phony Benoni: <Kevin86> I'd say the game move, 38.Bg4, is even simpler than 38.Rxe7+. Besides setting up the mating threat seen in the game, it threatens to trade qieens on e7 before playing Bxc8, reducing any future work to a bare minimum.
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  ruyfanatic: To appple pi and blitzkriege: both of those do work, but it goes against the credo of not developing your queen early.
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  patzer2: <Jim Bartle> Apparently I took my misplaced modifier(s) with me. Thanks for the humor! Hope you had a Merry Christmas and enjoy a Happy New Year!
Dec-29-07  LivBlockade: <kevin86: I saw a simpler conclusion: 38. Rxe7+ Qxe7 39. Qxc8+ followed by Qxa6. White would be ahead a piece, but with a lot of work left.> I also liked the 38. Rxe7+ line, but 38. Rd5 looks even stronger to me.
Dec-29-07  Treadhead57: <Jim Bartle: patzer2: Your chess program is visiting relatives? I wonder what holiday traditions they celebrate...> Caissamas?
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  Jim Bartle: Patzer: What snacks do the computer programs eat at Caissamas? Silicon chips, of course.
Dec-29-07  wouldpusher: <I saw a simpler conclusion: 38 Rxe7+ Qxe7 39 Qxc8+ followed by Qxa6>

There's something even simpler than that, and than the one in the text. 38. ♖a7! threatening ♕g8# and ♕xc8 at the same time.

Dec-29-07  Fourpointo: <There's something even simpler than that, and than the one in the text. 38. Ra7! threatening Qg8# and Qxc8 at the same time.>

Qg8 wouldn't be a mate because of Bf8.

Dec-30-07  wouldpusher: <Qg8 wouldn't be a mate because of Bf8.>

Oh, my bad. The mate I referred to was 39. ♕g8+ ♗f8 40. ♕f7+ ♔d8 41. ♕xf8#

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