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Oscar Panno vs Hector Bravo Sedamanos
Fortaleza zt 1975  ·  English Opening: Symmetrical. Four Knights Variation (A35)  ·  0-1
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Feb-01-07  jimenas1: Tf1+ Ok.
Feb-01-07
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  Peligroso Patzer: After 29. Rdd1, strongest would have been 29. ... Qf1+!, which forces mate: 30.Rxf1 Ne2+ 31.Kh1 Rxf1+ 32.Rxf1 Rxf1#.

Feb-01-07  johnsbrother: Ah, I thought I had it with Ne2+ too. I thought that looked a little easy for a Thursday.
Feb-01-07
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  fm avari viraf: Again, the tactics of exploiting the back rank weakness beautifully executed by Panno!
Feb-01-07
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  kevin86: Too easy! I missed it! RATS!! I,too,went for the fork at e2-missing the intermezzo of Nf6+.

The ending has a funny twist-after 30 Rxd1 Ne2+ 31 Kh1 Rf1+ and mate next. Black,of course,will refuse to take back the queen.

Feb-01-07
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  gawain: Excellent puzzle! (No I did not solve it. though when I saw the stunning move Bravo played I did smack my forehead and say "D'oh!")

Winning by thrusting the Q into a nest of rooks. Delicious!

Feb-01-07
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  gawain: But whatever WAS Panno thinking when he moved 28 fxe5? Opening up the f-file to Black's rooks!
Feb-01-07  Themofro: I considered Ne2+ first of course, that part was obvious, but i was troubled by Nf6+ though i didn't calculate the whole thing out in my head, i was pretty sure it would hold for white. Then i looked some more and found it. It was a good puzzle because it gives u a seemingly simple solution that isn't actually it, but hard to resist. Good puzzle.
Feb-01-07  wals: Bravo Sadamanas ! Your Qe2 was THE move.
Feb-01-07  McCool: Bravo, Bravo!
Feb-01-07
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  playground player: <swiss.pawn> Like you, I thought Nf6+ would have been a crushing response for White to play to Qe2; and like you, I thought dxe5 ought to be Black's first move. It still looks to me like it ought to work. Can anyone else positively refute it?
Feb-01-07  Kaissa99: Sorry to burst your delusions, Chess MORON; but I AM NOT Dwins. I am a resonable player who has a rating of 2180. Like many of the chess players here I have little problem with the puzzles early in the week but the Saturday and Sunday puzzles are pretty much hit and miss with more on the miss side. That is why it is obvious that you are using the assistance of a computer(s) due to the incredible computer-like moves that you claim to find. After the last time I posted you were a less bit cocky with your boasts but it seems that you are back to your old habits. Today's puzzle is a prime example; after studying the position for a few minutes I managed to find what I thought was a spectacular solution to the problem i.e. the same 2 moves - Qe2 and QxD1 as the master played in the game (of course knowing there is a win makes finding the solution easier) which wins easily because you win a least a rook; but of course their is even a more spetacular sequence of moves leading to checkmate. So either you are a computer or Garry Kasparov who likes to impress us mere mortals with your ability to not only solve the problems but to even find better solutions, better defences quickly,instantly etc.
Feb-01-07  IMDONE4: 29. Nf6+ Rxf6 30. ef6 Qxd2 , Nf6 merely delays whats coming
Feb-01-07  IMDONE4: anyways, its a pretty combination, but nothing special
Feb-01-07  chessmoron: <Kaissa99> Come on, bring your skills on the table. I'll take you on anytime.
Feb-01-07  positionalgenius: <Kaissa99>You are a fine troll,be proud of it. Anyone who has a problem with <chessmoron> has some serious issues. Go see a therapist.
Feb-01-07  Kaissa99: It seems that you have trouble accepting reality, Chess MORON (fragile ego or poor self-image or both?). I am just one of several people out there who have strongly suspected you are using computer assistance. I have been visiting this board off and on for a couple of years and it seems that every time I checked the solution to the puzzle you are there with your boasts of how easily and quickly you solved the position while sometimes offering better computer-like solutions/moves. After reading how you claimed to have solved a very difficult Sunday puzzle instantly (even the annotator of the game said that if you just see a portion of the tactics to follow you are doing well) a couple of weeks back I could not resist any longer and posted for the first time on this board. To reiterate, I am not Dwins or any of the other people that you claim are harrassing you.
Feb-01-07  positionalgenius: <kaissa99>-oops i mean <DWINS> by "several people" do you mean your multiple screen names?
Feb-01-07  Mendrys: In defense of <chessmoron>, given the following position at move 29 with black to play:


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Would any of us have thought that 29...Qf1+!! or 29...Rf1+!! would have been a hard solution to find if this were the puzzle position? Perhaps not a Monday or a Tuesday puzzle but I would say no harder than a Wednesday puzzle.

Feb-01-07  chessmoron: <easily and quickly> Please find any of my post that implies I easily got it and how fast I found it on Saturday and Sunday puzzles.
Feb-01-07  Kaissa99: Chess MORON; you want evidence that shows you claiming to solve complicated puzzles quickly and easily - take a look on the Jan 7, 2007 chess puzzle. From the annotator's own words:

"Black sacrifices more or less all of his pieces in what seems to be an orgy of tactics. If you could work out just a tiny bit of what follows, then hats off!" -- Jacob Aagaard

And this is what you posted:
"Interesting. I actually saw the beautiful combination by <tpstar> in a instant. Qxg1+ and e2+ and the bishop shuts out the King ever capturing the soon to be promoted pawn."

Too bad Chess Moron, done in by your own words!
Look, I am not interested in a war of words with you; I have better things to do with my time. As stated before I only posted before for the first time when your boasts got to be too much. I did not intend to post again, but then you got into a war of words with another poster and then through your own paranoia claimed that this other poster was me.

Feb-01-07  positionalgenius: <Kaissa>Whoa! ONE example. Well then I guess he's guilty! btw,you referred to "multiple" people. Thats just one. Also,it appears you are jealous that another player has deep tactical vision and you don't. Sorry:)
Feb-01-07  DWINS: Wow! I just got home from work and logged on and I love what I'm seeing. <chessmoron> must be exposed and the more people who are discussing this the better.

<positionalgenius>, all you have to do is look at <chessmoron's> posts. There are hundreds of them and they are all available. Time after time after time he comes up with all the best moves and defenses that even world champions missed. Coincidently, they also happen to match my computer's analysis move for move.

There is no room for debate whether or not he uses a computer. He does so without even a shadow of a doubt. I will continue to point this out until he admits to it. As long as he then gives credit where credit is due, I won't post about this again. <chessmoron>, people will still appreciate the time you spent finding good moves without having to pretend that you are a great player.

Feb-01-07  Kaissa99: PositionalGenius, you are not a very smart fellow are you? Just look at the most current puzzle - today's, he claimed that he found the solution that was even better than in the game. Check his other past posts. He asked to find any example - just one -from a Saturday or Sunday puzzle , I just pointed out the most obvious one.

There will always be someone who is smarter,better,faster stronger than yourself, I do not have a problem with this but apparently, Chess Moron does. Like I said I am not interested in extending this dialogue any further -time for dinner.

Feb-01-07  Mendrys: Considering that Kaissa99 only seems to post when he is criticizing <chessmoron> it would seem that maybe <chessmoron> is right. As well it should be noted that the above quotes given by <Kaissa99>:

<"Black sacrifices more or less all of his pieces in what seems to be an orgy of tactics. If you could work out just a tiny bit of what follows, then hats off!" -- Jacob Aagaard

And this is what you posted:
"Interesting. I actually saw the beautiful combination by <tpstar> in a instant. Qxg1+ and e2+ and the bishop shuts out the King ever capturing the soon to be promoted pawn.">

need to be taken in context. <Chessmoron> was commenting on the position several moves after Aagard's comments when the position was much clearer and did not take a GM to see that black was winning.

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