Nov-15-11
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: My heavens, how 19th Century can you get? |
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Nov-15-11
 | | Benzol: <Good Evening: My heavens, how 19th Century can you get?> <An Englishman> Have a look at Spassky vs V Mikenas, 1959 |
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| Nov-15-11 | | lemaire90: I don't get 10. Rg1 |
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Nov-15-11
| | An Englishman: Good Evening: In Spassky v. Mikenas, White figured out how to transpose from an Albin Countergambit into something akin to the Muzio Gambit of the KGA, so yes, I would call that quite 19th C. 10.Rg1 probably intended an eventual g2-g4-g5 opening the g-file. However, Black rendered the idea impractical. Hecht was a pretty good player of the era; he knew when to abandon an unworkable idea. |
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| Nov-15-11 | | Jamboree: Can someone explain to me what's so resignable about the final position? Sure, black is two pawns down, but with 2 Rs vs a Q, there are all sorts of possibilities for drawing strategies. Plus, most importantly, I don't see any kind of immediate tactical material gain in the final position, after 31. ... Ke6!? White can chase black's king all over the board for several moves, but I don't see a mate nor an obvious way to win the bishop without simultaneously giving up the knight. Maybe a long-term win for white, sure, but why not make him prove it? Or...what am I missing? Why DID black resign? |
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| Nov-15-11 | | ferri1234: I have the same doubts. Why black resigned? |
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Nov-15-11
 | | mike1: Jamboree: where to put your king?
Any move on the g-file and Qg1 picks up the bishop. Kf8 allows Qc7.
Ke7, Qc7+ followed by c4 with the idea of c5 looks bad too. Ke6 looks best 32.Nb7+! follwed by Q+ on c5 or c7. The knight returns to d6 and the king will not like it. |
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| Nov-15-11 | | BlackSheep: <jamboree> 31...Ke6 , Nb7+ , Ke5 , Qe3 , Be4 , Nc5 , f5 , Nd7+ wins the rook .
Actually stronger (even though losing) Ke7 , Nf5+ , Kd7 , Qd4 , Ke6 , Ng7+ , Ke7 , Qc5+ , Kd7 , Qf5+ , Kc7 , Ne6+ , Kb7 , Qxf6 , Ka8 , a4 , Rbc8 , Nc7+ , Kb8 , Qe5 , Rh7 , Ne8+ , Ka8 , Qf5 , Rxe8 , Qxh7 and now its R+B+P vs Q+4P (5.85 adv. white) |
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Nov-15-11
 | | kevin86: White forces the adverse king into the open and eventually has a winning game. |
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| Nov-15-11 | | justaguy: Wll someone please tell a newbie what's wrong with 16...Bxe5 ? |
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Nov-15-11
 | | Phony Benoni: <justaguy> After <16...Bxe5>:
click for larger viewWhite has <17.Ndxb5 axb5 18.Nxb5>. Black's queen is unable to protect the bishop any longer, and 18...Bf4 allows 19.Nxc7+. I don't think 17.Ncxb5 Qc5 works as well. |
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Nov-15-11
| | mike1: 16...Bxe5 runs into 17.Nxb5 axb5
18. Nxb5 and the queen cannot protect the bishop any longer. |
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sac: 21.Rxf7