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| Mar-02-07 | | zooreupa: What about 24. Bg4 ?
Thanks for a response |
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Mar-02-07
 | | goldfarbdj: I saw the whole thing up to and including 27. Bxb7+; I faltered at that point, not seeing that 28. Qxa6 threatened mate on c6 and the knight on a4. |
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| Mar-02-07 | | alshatranji: "What about 24. Bg4 ?"
24... f5 |
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Mar-02-07
 | | percyblakeney: I first decided that it had to start with b3, then tried to make it work as good as possible, not the right strategy... Looking closer at it 24. Ne6 is of course easily winning, even if black can get a rook and a knight for the queen if he plays 25. ... Qb5. <zooreupa>'s 24. Bg4 isn't bad, just as b3 it would be a very good move if there had been no Ne6 to start with... Black can actually not answer with f5 since Ne6 comes then instead, and the forced Qxg4 ends up with a complicated position where white should have at least a small advantage after Rd4. |
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| Mar-02-07 | | zooreupa: If 24. ... f5, then simplay Bxf5 followed by Ne6
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| Mar-02-07 | | zooreupa: Thank you percyblakeney
I think that if 24. Bg4, black has to play Nf5 which I consider (don't know nevertheless) as the best move, cause f5 doesn't work (as you stated) and Qxg4 is dangerous too! |
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Mar-02-07
 | | gauer: Looks like the Byrne brothers have picked up on some of Bobby's free lessons - and put 'em to good use! |
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| Mar-02-07 | | NotABanker: Break up the center.Just what I was thinking. |
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Mar-02-07
| | TrueBlue: I had 26 e7 instead ... also fine? |
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| Mar-02-07 | | dragons: How can you play in tournaments. |
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| Mar-02-07 | | Billosky: Easy for a Friday, or my chess dementia is in temporary remission. |
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Mar-02-07
 | | YouRang: I didn't get it, but I did have the feeling that I needed to get that d5 pawn out of the way in order to mount any attack. But I couldn't see the attack through well enough to justify sacrificing a knight. In the final position, black's defense is decimated, and the king is wide open to attacks from white Q+R, and in fact, white will soon pin & win the black queen. How wonderful it must be to see all of this way back at move 24! It's out of my range. |
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Mar-02-07
 | | kevin86: I was looking for a mate-not ready to see a queen gobbling all of black's defenders. The queen will go next. |
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| Mar-02-07 | | zb2cr: I note that even if Black tries 29. ... Qxg2, he doesn't have enough time to take the Rook as White plays 30. Rc3+, Kb8; 31. Rb3+, Kc7; 32. Qc4+, Qc6(forced); 33. Rc3 and the pin keeps Black from playing 33. ... Qxh1+, and his Queen goes lost. |
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Mar-02-07
| | wals: Not even close |
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| Mar-02-07 | | vangogh228: "alshatranji: 'What about 24. Bg4?' 24... f5" Hmmmm... I don't know. I may be missing something here, but what about... 25. Ne6 Nb6
26. Rc3+
If 24. Bg4 then 24.... Qxg4. |
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Mar-02-07
 | | playground player: Got most of it--how about that? The hard part, for me, always lies in finding all the other guy's moves, too. My moves for Black didn't pan out any better than Mr. Liberzon's, though. |
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Mar-02-07
| | Themofro: Saw up to Qc7, then i was thinking of d7 though, would that also win? |
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| Mar-02-07 | | Cold Capa Style: I was looking at 24.Bg4 too. It is an interesting variation. 24...Qxb4 25.Rd3 Nc5 26.b4 and it is hard too stop the rook to getting to c4. If black gives up his knight at c5 then white will open the diagonal for his bishop which will also result with a dangerous attack. Am I missing something? |
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Mar-02-07
| | aazqua: Outstanding. I got the whole thing, and I have to say that's its pretty impressive to work out all the variations, although for the most part it's a forced line. Hats off to the magician. |
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Mar-02-07
| | greensfield: Missed it. Looking at trying to put the Bishop on g4 to pin the Queen.
I reckon to get this one, on the current position, you had to visualise the mate in one threat: Qxb7# , if the Pawn on d5 wasn't there and the Queen was persuaded to go elsewhere. Beyond me. |
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| Mar-02-07 | | Fisheremon: 24.Ne6 looks natural and beautiful. Another "positional" solution is: 24.Be2 Rhe8 25.Rd4 Nc5 26.b4 Qa4 27.Kb1 Re5 28.Rhd1 Nf5 29.Bg4 Qb5 30.Kc1 Na4 31.Nd3 (  ). |
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| Mar-02-07 | | Marmot PFL: A little too deep for me today, even though I saw the game back in the 70s and forgot the solution (yeah, getting old). |
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| Feb-04-12 | | LawrenceBernstein: Gorgeous. |
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| Jul-18-12 | | LoveThatJoker: Guess-the-Move Final Score:
R Byrne vs V Liberzon, 1976.
YOU ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF BYRNE.
Your score: 40 (par = 22)
LTJ |
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sac: 24.Ne6