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Leon S Lederman vs Krzysztof Pytel
Le Havre (1977)
Spanish Game: Open. Open Variation (C80)  ·  0-1
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Feb-14-07  En prise: So easy a caveman can do it? We cavemen invented chess!!
Feb-14-07  Larsker: <cjhasbrouck:> I kind of like your battle against the puzzles. All your comments seem to be about that. Remember, the journey is everything. Same for all of us.
Feb-14-07
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  Beancounter: Got it after about 5 minutes, but having seen it, you think, so obvious. Whether or not I would have gotten it if we hadn't all had the big clue, (ie the theme of the week) is open to debate.
Feb-14-07
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  YouRang: First I looked at 36...Rxe1+ 37. Qxe1 Qf3 (threatening 38...Qg2#), but that ran into complications via either 38. Qe4 or 38. Qe8+.

Next, I reversed the order with 36...Qf3, and found that it presents white with decisive mating threats.

White must give up the queen for a bishop (37. Nxh3 Qxc3 ). Any other move allows immediate mate either by 37...Qg2# or (if 37. Qxf3) Rxe1#. Nice puzzle.

Feb-14-07  uuft: I found a mate in 67 moves here - spotting Qf3 in less than 2 minutes... Somehow I felt there had to be a quicker way, though. :)
Feb-14-07  wals: Simple Simon would spot this one.
Well I did so it must be easy..
Feb-14-07  Silverstrike: Hey, could anyone post the links to the games of all the daily puzzles since last thursday?
Feb-14-07  niemzo: <YouRang>
Nh3 doesn't give the queen for bishop.
It loses the exchange to defend against mate.
Feb-14-07
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  playground player: Not bragging, but somehow Qf3 simply presented itself to me the moment I looked at the puzzle. What that means, I suppose, is that putting in a lot of time playing chess, studying historical games, and trying to solve these puzzles will eventually teach you to "see chess." Is this puzzle over the head of a casual player? Well, I doubt I would have seen the solution a few months ago. I don't have a formal rating, I don't have a chess computer, and I think of myself as "casual," at least compared to some of the chess fanatics on this site. We're all here because we want to play better chess, right? But it does take time!
Feb-14-07  Black Vampire: <cjhasbrouck>After 36...Rxe1+ 37.Qxe1, Qf3??, then 38.Nxh3. Well, you can check with 38.Qe8, but what for? Crafty 19.01 doesn´t see any mate, so White will have to be satisfied with having a piece up, which is enough to win.
Feb-14-07  mahmoudkubba: If Leon S Lederman was or is an IM and Krzysztof Pytel was or is a GM then the say of the day: "If you're a GM you should be able to overpower the IM tactically. The GM will often blow out the IM in this area. --- Nick de Firmian" is true yet there is the word OFTEN????, Any how I was thinking a little abtthis special game and found the hourse movement, yet I might be mistaken of course.
Feb-14-07
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  YouRang: <niemzo> Right you are; I missed that at first glance. Nevertheless, after winning the exchange, the rook is active while the knight it 'on the rim'. The rook will easily pick up a couple pawns and black sails to victory.

Here's an interesting tidbit: Earlier today, I let Rybka chew on the position after 37. Nxh3 Qxc3. For ply 1-20, it recommended the 'obvious' 38. bxc3, but at 21ply, it switched to 38. Rf1. (It doesn't mean much really; only that white is losing badly.)

Feb-14-07
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  YouRang: <Silverstrike: Hey, could anyone post the links to the games of all the daily puzzles since last thursday?>

Tue-13th: Pillsbury vs G Marco, 1896 19. ?

Mon-12th: J Robey vs Anderssen, 1862 39...?

Sun-11th: Akopian vs Y Kuzubov, 2007 18. ?

Sat-10th: Bronstein vs D Gurevich, 1993 26. ?

Fri-9th: Taimanov vs Geller, 1951 42. ?

Thu-8th: Y Shulman vs I Schneider, 2006 25. ?

Feb-14-07  Themofro: Simple puzzle for a Wednesday, but then again, it is valetine's day i suppose.
Feb-14-07  Happypuppet: <cjhasbrouck> I would guess a few people who kibitz here with things such as "Got it in X seconds" look at the puzzle, immediately consider a few captures and sacrificial moves 1 ply deep, and right away click in to see that one of them is indeed correct. (I do not mean everyone with this generalization) At least you're honest.
Feb-14-07  Silverstrike: <YouRang> Thanks alot. I appreciate that. :)
Feb-14-07  Bare Beginner: Interesting thought process. I saw the Q move right away, then thought to 'deflect' Ws Q by RxR. Hmmm .... actually the other way round. Shows that you have keep each thought in mind and then be flexible with how you apply them.
Feb-14-07  LaSmitedCrab: Classic.
Feb-14-07
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  kevin86: I answered this problem correctly-the real quirk is the strange removal of the guard after:37 ♘xh3 ♕xc3 38 bxc3 ♖xe1+ picking up the exchange-other options allow mate at g2 or e1.
Feb-14-07  aazqua: This is obscenely easy.
Feb-14-07  aazqua: It's pretty clear that white had no idea what he was doing for most of this game.
Feb-14-07  Trouble: easy one imo
Feb-14-07  ALEXIN: Beautiful move.
Feb-17-07
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  fm avari viraf: < pggarner > Your suggestion 38.Qe4 is fine but U don't like to grab the B by ...Nxh3?
Jul-31-17  Xeroxx: Must construct additional Pytels.
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