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Ruslan Ponomariov vs Vladimir Kramnik
Corus (2007)  ·  Semi-Slav Defense: Normal Variation (D45)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Kibitzer's Corner
Jan-18-07
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  ganstaman: Hmmm, well I guess if you don't want to draw against Kramnik, you should avoid the Petroff with 1.d4...

At least it adds some variability to the whole thing.

Jan-18-07  dehanne: Why is this game drawn? Can't Kramnik try to play against Pono's isolated d-pawn? Can't Pono try to concoct a plan based around the two bishops?

Sheesh.

Jan-18-07  chessmoron: Not really. Pono has a microscopic advantage here but can't much gain here. So short draw.
Jan-18-07  s4life: <Why is this game drawn?>

Because Kramnik is playing with black.

Jan-18-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  WannaBe: Bwahahaha...
Jan-18-07  russep: well good to know Kramnik is back to his old self
Jan-18-07  alicefujimori: Well, it was Pono who preferred to keep things around equal and not risk playing for the advantage. The line 6.Bd2 and 7.Bd3 is definitely not a test of the Semi-Slav.
Jan-18-07
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  notyetagm: <ganstaman: Hmmm, well I guess if you don't want to draw against Kramnik, you should avoid the Petroff with 1.d4... At least it adds some variability to the whole thing.>

Yes, instead of a 28-move draw with the Petroff, you get a 19-move draw with the Semi-Slav.

Jan-20-07  thunderhrom: well, gentlemen, they don't call him "draw"nik for nothing...it is a reputation that is well deserved...
Jan-22-07  Whitehat1963: Boring!
Jan-22-07  sitzkrieg: Pono offered the draw.
Jan-22-07  SniperOnG7: Here we go again...
Gee White allowed the draw so the 'fault' lies in Pono and not Kramnik. But do we start bashing Pono? Noooo lets just beat the c*** outa Kramnik (in a kibitzing way)

Yes it has become a formula. First someone mentions 'Kramnik' and 'draw' in the same sentence...then a bunch of others jump on the bandwagon and tada more kibitzing space is filled with this drawnik junk, everyone gets one more post, and chessgames.com is rich with more 2cents. I guess the idea is, why abandon something when it is so successful?

Jan-23-07  SniperOnG7: BTW sorry for the outlash. We're all friends here :) Its just that chess is their (and not ours) job and thus every move and every draw offer is a professional decision made for the benefit of securing some dosh for their living. While wins obvious mean more, loss of game = loss of money bigtime. And yesyes I know the counterpoint: these superGMs already have enough to live on, they should think for their dear fans for a change. Well when was the last time you found a rich person who doesn't want to get richer? So though we spectators may hate their insipid draws, with each game THEY are deciding THEIR career, fate and future.

This is my opinion which magnifies my dislike of bashing Kramnik or other GMs tis all :)

Jan-27-07  InspiredByMorphy: 18.f4 would have been a more classical approach in the position.

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