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|May-19-08|| ||firstagainst: Perhaps it's silly to question an obvious win, but 27.Nxe6 (already mentioned by <al wazir> seems just as emphatic:|
27...Bxe6 (27...fxe6 is no better)
and White wins 2 pawns with a big attack.
29.Qd8+ Kg7 (or Qe8)
and White wins a clear rook.
|May-19-08|| ||TrueBlue: Bxd5 for me|
|May-19-08|| ||TrueBlue: and here is a whole line, I think kind of cute :)
27. Bxd5 exd5 28. Ne6 (instead of the obvious Qxh6) Qb6 29. Nxf8 Kxf8 30. Bh6+ Ke8 31. e6 Qxe6 32. Rde1
Ra6 33. Rxe6+ Rxe6 34. Re1 Nd7 35. Rxe6+ fxe6
|May-19-08|| ||Lostin space: as an absolute beginner I thought NxE6 looked pretty compelling, with f7Xe6 more or less forced then Rxg6+ and QxN to follow. Threats of either rook going to F6 and I guess the black queen falls or else mate. But the text move is prettier I admit!|
|May-19-08|| ||zb2cr: Saw this quickly, once I noticed that Black's Queen was unprotected and that White could create a discovered check threat by taking the Knight. |
27. Qxh5, gxh5; 28. Nxe6+, Kh8; 29. Nxc7. This last move does multiple duties--not only recovering the Queen, but forking the Black Rook at a8 and the (now unprotected) Black Bishop at d5, forcing the loss of more material. After 29. ... Bc6; 30. Nxa8, Bxa8 Black is a Rook and a Pawn down. After 29. ... Bf3; 30. Nxa8, Bxd1; 31. Kxd1 White is up by 2 full pieces and a Pawn.
|May-19-08|| ||zb2cr: <Lostin space>,
27. Nxe6 is also good enough to win, but 27. ... fxe6 is not forced. The move for Black is 27. ... Bxe6. After 28. Bxe6, Kh8; 29. Rg5, fxe6; 30. Rxg6 Black has an obviously lost position.
|May-19-08|| ||johnlspouge: Monday (Very Easy): White to play and win.
Material: B for N. Ominously, the White Rg1 is opposite Kg8, with Ng5 and Pg6 in between. In addition, the White Qh4 could mate if the Black Nh5 were removed. The Bb3 and Bd2 are also pointed in the general direction of the Black Kg8.
Candidates (27.): Qxh5
27.Qxh5 (threatening 28.Qh7#) gxh5 [else, drop a N]
28.Nxe6+ any 29.Nxc7
winning a N. That Ng5 moves fast!
|May-19-08|| ||Marmot PFL: This one was "too easy" I guess. I saw Nxe6 Bxe6 Bxe6 fe6 Rxg6+ Ng7 Rdg1 etc. and didn't even think about Qxh5. And black doesn't even have to take the Be6 so I'm making it much too hard for a Monday.|
|May-19-08|| ||handle: Yeah, pretty easy indeed.
White can get up two pieces;
27 Qxh5 gxh5
28 Nxe6+ Kh8 (or anywhere out of check)
29 Nxc7 forks the Rook and now undefended Bishop.
So, you come out up a Knight and a Bishop, if I'm not mistaken.
|May-19-08|| ||gawain: Even on Monday, winning a piece outright is occasionally good enough. An instructive puzzle.|
|May-19-08|| ||kevin86: Since it was a Monday,I jumped at the chance for 27 ♕xh5-I saw immediately that after gxh5,white wins a piece with a fork 28 ♘xe6+,regaining the queen.|
I didn't find a quick check mate but I knew that the piece gained was enough to win.
|May-19-08|| ||YouRang: Well, I quickly found 27.Qxh5, winning a piece with the added benefit of taking off the queens.|
Just for laughs, I wondered if white could also win with the more startling 27.Nxe6! immediately...
27.Nxe6 <forking Q & R> Bxe6 <not ...fxe6 or else 28.Qxh5 & Rxg6 & Rdf1 force mate quickly>
28.Bxe6 Kh8 <breaking the pin & giving room for Q to defend at h7; if ...Ng7, then 29.Rxg6 & Rdg1 wins; again, not ...fxe6 or 29.Qxh5 etc wins>
29.Rg5! fxe6 <what else? if ...Rg8 then 30.Rxh5+! gxh5 31.Qxh5+ Kg7 32.Qh6#>
30.Rxg6 <threat:Rh6 Kg8 & Rg1 soon skewering Q> Rf7 <if ...Qh7, then 31.Rh6 wins Q>
31.Qxh6+ Rh7 32.Rg8+! Kxg8 33.Qe8+ Kg7 34.Rg1#
Not as good as the simple text -- unless you give yourself points for being flashy. :-)
|May-19-08|| ||Magic Castle: <Handle> Following your line you win a full rook. Since after NXQ BXB NXR and the Bishop escapes.|
|May-19-08|| ||stacase: Got it!|
|May-19-08|| ||newzild: <Waitaka> Are you a New Zealander? Your name looks Maori.
The reason the sac is obvious to experienced chess-players is that they see the board in a different way to less advanced players.
In the above position, an advanced player would immediately see that there is a white rook on the same file as the black king, and then look for a tactical way to open the file.
Granted, a queen sac is usually the last option looked at by the experienced player, but in this particular position white has no other way to open the file immediately.|
|May-19-08|| ||zb2cr: Hi <YouRang>,
It's good to see your analysis mirrors mine posted in reply to <Lostin space>. Even better is to see how you've extended it out to a clear mate.
|May-19-08|| ||D.Observer: Isn't 27. Nxf7 Rxf7 28. Rxg6+ Kf8 29. Qh5 a better alternative line?|
|May-19-08|| ||234: Sunday puzzle <30. ...?> May-18-08 Portisch vs Zsuzsa Polgar, 1991|
|May-19-08|| ||Waitaka: <newzild> No, newzild, I am from Brasil. The Waitaka (aka Goitaca) were great indian worriors in Brasil, but they were all killed in 1600.|
|May-20-08|| ||newzild: Waitaka: <newzild> No, newzild, I am from Brasil. The Waitaka (aka Goitaca) were great indian worriors in Brasil, but they were all killed in 1600.|
Those damn Spanish!! I guess you never play the Ruy Lopez, huh?
|May-22-08|| ||patzer2: For the Monday May 19, 2008 puzzle solution, Lahno wins decisive material after the Queen pseudo-sacrifice 27. Qxh5! which sets up a decisive discovered check to win Black's Queen with compound interest and capital gains after 27...gxh5 28. Nxe6+ .|
|May-23-08|| ||Waitaka: <newzild> Actually, Brasil was discovered and colonized by the portuguese. So I do play Ruy Lopez. :)|
|May-25-08|| ||newzild: Waitaka: <newzild> Actually, Brasil was discovered and colonized by the portuguese. So I do play Ruy Lopez. :)|
Oops. Sorry. I should have done some research on Brazil before trying to be a smarty-pants...
|May-26-08|| ||Waitaka: <newzild> Don't punish yourself, it's a common mistake. :)|
|Dec-27-08|| ||Ychromosome: <D.Observer> 27.Nxf7 does not have to be met with Rxf7. After Qxf7 black seems to be solid, with white having sarificed a piece for little.|
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