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|Sep-01-09|| ||meth0dSNK: 5.. Bxf3
then u play d5 and c6
|Sep-01-09|| ||eternaloptimist: The pun is based off the great country song "Rhinestone Cowboy" by Glen Campbell. It's 1 of my favorite country songs. Nice win, clever pawn sacs to get a on the 7th rank & great control of the f-file by Reinfeld. I think the first chess book that I ever bought was "The Complete Chess Course" by Reinfeld when I was ~15 years old. It's a great book that was first printed way back in 1959, & it's still being sold in bookstores. It's definitely thorough since it is ~700 pages long. It really helped me get a good, solid foundation of the basics of chess.|
|Sep-01-09|| ||whiteshark: Maybe 12...b5 or 12...Nbd7 for counterplay on the queenside resp. a more harmonious development.|
|Sep-01-09|| ||kevin86: White's rook and queen are forket-but it is Fred who has the winning attack.|
|Sep-01-09|| ||Phony Benoni: This is one of the puns I submitted when the Pun Submission Page opened back up last month. Just a reminder: you too can see your brilliant brainstorms on the home page!|
By the way, did anyone else notice the tournament?
|Sep-01-09|| ||YouRang: From the final position:
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White had a number of ways to win.
Probably the most obvious is <31.Bxa8 Rxa8 32.Ne4>
If <32...Ne7> (offer to exchange queens) then 33.Nxd6 Nxf6 34.Nxf5 (and white is up a rook).
If <32...Qd4+> (save queen with check) <33.Kh1> and black is helpless against threat of 34.Qxg6, and mating attack to follow.
|Sep-01-09|| ||TheFocus: I believe when you have the Queen and both Rooks lined up on a file like this, it is called Alekhine's Gun or Alekhine's Rifle. Great game.|
|Sep-01-09|| ||MarkusKann: Maybe the next white move will be Rxg7, and that's all too|
|Sep-01-09|| ||Jimfromprovidence: Why retreat with 18...Ng8? Keep that f6 square blocked. |
Now, if the line continues as the text did with 19 e5 dxe5 20 f5, then 20...g5.
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White's f pawn is blocked and the knight must retreat.
Again, black did not have to forfeit that f6 square.
|Sep-01-09|| ||WhiteRook48: 31 Rxg7 Kxg7 32 Qf7+ Kh8 33 Bxg6|
|Sep-01-09|| ||HeMateMe: Interesting. Reinfield wasn't really an elite playe, was he? He wrote some ok beginner instruction books. I think he was an active player in the New York scene back in the 40s and 50s. Sort of a Pandolfini type guy, master level, good instructor.|
|Sep-01-09|| ||Albertan: Why play 8...h6, when he could have played the developing move 8...Bg7 ?|
The move 15...Nf6? was a mistake which Reinfield failed to take advantage of.Instead of 16.h3 he should have played 16.e5! with this variation possible:
16. e5 Ng4 (16... Nfd7 17. e6 fxe6 18. dxe6 Bxg2 19. Qxg6+ ) 17. Bd2
Kg8 18. h3 dxe5 19. hxg4 exf4 20. Bxf4 Nd7
I agree with Jim that 16....Ng8? was a mistake, however the question is what to play instead? 16...Rc8 perhaps? 16...Qc7 with the idea of ...c4 perhaps?
Reshevsky blundered on move 27 when he played 27...Nf5?? however he is still lost even if he played a move such as 27...Re7 for instance:
27... Re7 28. Rxe7 Qxe7 29. Qxe3 Rb8 30. Nxg6 Nxg6 31. Bxg6) 28. Nxf5 gxf5
29. Qxf5 Kh8 30. Rf7 Ng6
|Sep-01-09|| ||Jimfromprovidence: In my first post, I forgot to annotate the move I liked, even though it's in the diagram. |
Why retreat with 18...Ng8? Keep that f6 square blocked with <something like 18...c4>.
|Sep-01-09|| ||chillowack: <An Englishman>: Mikhail Tal once enunciated a similar triangle. I think it was "Korchnoi always beats Tal, Tal always beats Keres, and Keres always beats Korchnoi," but I'm not 100% sure.|
<The Focus>: You're close. "Alekhine's Gun" is when the queen is *behind* the two rooks on the file (providing the "firepower").
Reinfeld played beautifully in this game. Especially pleasing (though thematic) was the "sealer-sweeper" sacrifice 19.e5!
|Sep-02-09|| ||TheFocus: <chillowak> Thank you.|
|Sep-02-09|| ||ToTheDeath: <HeMateMe: Interesting. Reinfield wasn't really an elite playe, was he? He wrote some ok beginner instruction books. I think he was an active player in the New York scene back in the 40s and 50s. Sort of a Pandolfini type guy, master level, good instructor.>|
No, he was far better than Pandolfini. One of the best players in the US in his day.
<Although Reinfeld is remembered today for his writing, he was also one of the strongest players in the United States. He was ranked sixth in the country on the first rating list issued by the United States Chess Federation in 1950, after Reuben Fine, Samuel Reshevsky, Alexander Kevitz, Arthur Dake, and Albert Simonson. Reinfeld won the 1933 New York State Championship, finishing all eleven rounds undefeated, ahead of Fine, Anthony Santasiere, and Arnold Denker. During his career, he won games against grandmasters Reshevsky (twice), Fine, Frank Marshall, and Denker, and drew against world champion Alexander Alekhine.>
|Sep-05-09|| ||jerseybob: I'd like to echo ToTheDeath about what a fine player Reinfield was, not seemingly in Reshevsky's class, but good enough not trifle with. Their final score: 2.5-.5 in Reinfeld's favor. On May 29th 1964 -the day Reinfeld died,his playing career long over - Reshevsky was in Amsterdam playing in Round 8 of the Interzonal.|
|Sep-05-09|| ||Phony Benoni: Besides the 1933 New York State Championship mentioned by Wikipedia, Reinfeld also won that tournament in 1931, undefeated, ahead of Fine, Dake, and Santasiere.|
|Nov-08-09|| ||Plato: <methodSNK: 5.. Bxf3
then u play d5 and c6
Sad? Reshevsky made a move that has been played by no less than five world champions (Capablanca, Tal, Petrosian, Karpov, Kasparov) and dozens of other strong players as well, and you insult him?
Sorry, no. Reshevsky made his mistakes, but 5...c5 was not one of them.
By the way, 5...Bxf3 has never been played by any grandmasters, let alone world champions. And for good reason. After 5...Bxf3, 6.Bxf3 d5, 7.Nc3 c6 (your recommendations for Black) 8.Qa4, White has the two bishops, more space, a lead in development, and the clearly more comfortable game.
For someone who considers himself a "high 2700" player, you sure do make lot of faulty recommendations.
|Nov-08-09|| ||parisattack: <HeMateMe: Interesting. Reinfield wasn't really an elite playe, was he? He wrote some ok beginner instruction books. I think he was an active player in the New York scene back in the 40s and 50s. Sort of a Pandolfini type guy, master level, good instructor.>|
Actually Reinfeld's pre-war books were excellent, solid. The Immortal Games of Capablanca is super. His Keres book and the Wizards of the Chessboard series are both solid tomes. He did some mineo books on tournaments and players in the 1930s that, while awful productions (typed then mimeod) have good content and are very sought-after by collectors.
I think he discovered there was money in the game sometime in the 1950s...
So far as hack-verus-hack goes I personally think Pandolfini wins hands-down.
|Nov-08-09|| ||HeMateMe: I had some of the old Reinfield books back when I was a kid, the material was good but the typesetting was awful, smeared copy, etc. In that pre-internet time before amazone and other online sources, I didn't know he had written that many books, his most popular ones seem to be beginner tactics. I thought thats all he had done.|
I thought he was sort of Silman/Schiller type, average player, good writer.
|Jan-14-10|| ||PeterB: Isn't White's 6.d5 and 7.Nh4 known as the Panno system? Pretty good of Reinfeld to have come up with it in the 1930s!|
|Jan-14-10|| ||AnalyzeThis: Alekhine played this way too.|
|Apr-25-12|| ||profK: This turns into a quasi Benoni...|
|Jun-17-12|| ||King Death: < PeterB: Isn't White's 6.d5 and 7.Nh4 known as the Panno system? Pretty good of Reinfeld to have come up with it in the 1930s!>|
He didn't, here's a game where White found the right idea but still got blasted off the board (Alekhine vs Capablanca, 1927) when he didn't play the right follow up.
Now for a similar idea in the old main line after the better move 5...Be7 6.d5 ed 7.Nh4 here's a much later game. Polugaevsky vs Korchnoi, 1980
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