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Magnus Carlsen vs Veselin Topalov
Morelia-Linares (2007), Morelia MEX, rd 5, Feb-22
Semi-Slav Defense: Stoltz Variation (D45)  ·  1-0
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Feb-24-07  Rama: Wouldn't you or I have played the Q-check before resigning? ("Okay, I'm lost so why not?")

Perhaps in that position the clearing move e5 might have been more visible.

Feb-24-07  Maynard5: Coolbob is correct of course. My previous comment was premature. It turns out the 54. Nd4? would lose by force. Black’s response would of course be 54. … Rfg8, freeing the square f8 for the king. If then 55. Nxf5 Rxh7 56. Nd6+ Ke7 and Black wins (of course Black loses after 56. … Kf8? 57. Rxg8+ Kxg8 58. Nxe8). Or if 55. Qh5+ Kf8 56. Qxe8+ Kxe8, and White has two loose pieces. No doubt, that’s why a grandmaster like Carlsen avoided this line.

Feb-24-07  Fisheremon: Black could take a pawn (Qxb3) 3 times: on 47 & 48 with advantadge, on 50 with equality. Certainly 50...Qd7? losing (so I put 49.d5?!), but White missed 56.Nd2! winning (interesting if 51...Qd8, then 52.Rh3!, or 51...Ref7 52.Rh5 with also nice combos). Black gave White one more chance to win 60...f5? (60...Qd5+!), the final position after 64.Qg6? is drawn, although Black resigned, but the winning move was 64.Kh2! At any event White deserves a victory at least for attacking style.
Feb-25-07  jdadamo: thank you very much euripides, atking and ganso for your kind advices
Feb-27-07  spidi: 64. Qg6 Rybka2.3 says that it is a draw.
Mar-04-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  Peligroso Patzer: This game is mentioned (with a link to this page of CG.com!) in a story covering the Linares tournament in the chess column from today's on-line edition of the NY Times. Here is the link:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/04/c...

Mar-05-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  keypusher: <Peligroso Patzer> Interesting find! I wonder if the NYTimes chess columnist is a poster here.
Mar-05-07  notyetagm: <TheHurricane3: Topalov is losing it. After being crushed psychologically by kramnik and polgar his game is now less dynamic.>

Wouldn't that be the same Polgar that he wiped out in their blindfold match in December?

Of coure, many Topalov bashers never let little things like the facts get in the way of their arguments.

Mar-06-07  dehanne: <Wouldn't that be the same Polgar that he wiped out in their blindfold match in December?> We know, but Topalov doesn't. After all, he was blindfolded...
Mar-06-07  Rama: Next round Topalov gets his chance for revenge, with Carlsen playing well but unevenly.
Mar-06-07  slomarko: Ok <acirce> 47...Qb3 is winning.
Sep-07-08  notyetagm: I need to study this game.
Sep-07-08  notyetagm: <Bungalow Bill: Mig was impressed by Magnus: <Magnus Carlsen defeated Veselin Topalov in very impressive fashion, except that the final position was a draw. Incredibly, Topalov had to see just two moves to reach what looks like a plainly drawn position and instead he resigned. (64..Qd5+ 65.king anywhere or f3 65..e5 66.Qh7+ Kf8 67.Qh8 Qg8.) Absolutely bizarre, though not unprecedented. It wasn't undeserved because as many have pointed out, 55.Nd2! would have won by force and turned this game into the stuff of legend. Regardless, it was a powerful effort by Carlsen, who again showed the aggression that was largely absent from his play in his first supertournament appearances. <His first win over Morozevich seems to have given him the "hey, I can play with these guys" confidence he needed to take it to them.>>>

Boy was this a prophetic comment by Mig.

Sep-07-08  notyetagm: <YouRang: ... Here, Carlsen played 55. Rh6, but apparently the winning move was 55. Nd2!, threatening Ne4 and Nd6. If black prevents this with 55...f5, then back to 56. Nf3 threatening Ne5+, and black will soon lose material or be mated.>

(VAR) 55 ♘f3-d2!


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And once again, the winning move is to involve the final piece in the attack.

As Seirawan says, <INVITE EVERYONE TO THE PARTY!>. Here 55 ♘f3-d2! would have done just that, with the White f3-knight joining the attack via the the knight circuits d2-e4-d6 or d2-f3-e5 if the first circuit is denied by ... f6-f5.

Apr-10-09  WhiteRook48: 64...1-0??
Apr-24-09  WhiteRook48: or maybe Topalov just dreaded 65 Qh7+
Oct-16-11  notyetagm: Carlsen vs Topalov, 2007

Game Collection: INTERPOSE! INTERPOSE! INTERPOSE! INTERPOSE! Topalov overlooked 64 ... Qd7-d5+, 67 ... Qd5-g8 interposing

Jul-09-12  notyetagm: Carlsen vs Topalov, 2007

(VARIATION)
67 ... ♕d5-g8=


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Jul-09-12  notyetagm: Carlsen vs Topalov, 2007

The saving move is 64 ... ♕d7-d5!=.

Jan-28-14  GREYSTRIPE: Carlsen here forwarded a fine victory against an opponent whose position was not square from move 2. The Rooks-Bishops after exchange made for a fine End-Game. Carlsen is a fine Chess Champion of Note~ and is known to have spoken French appositely at a national event where dignitaries spoke from panel. He is well-respected, and so are the Rooks-Bishops he plays in Knights-Holds-Gains. The refined educated classes matter more than the uneducated, unrefined sample. Min:entExy..~GREYSTRIPE.
May-30-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  cormier:


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Analysis by Houdini

49.d5 Qe8 50.Qxe8 Rexe8 51.hxg7 Kxg7 52.Rxe6 Rxe6 53.Rxe6 cxd5 54.Rb6 b4 55.axb4 axb4 56.Rxb4 Kf7 57.Ne1 Rh8 58.Nd3 Nh4+ 59.Kg3 Ng6 60.f3 Rg8 61.Nf4 Nxf4+ 62.Kxf4 Rg1 63.Rb7+ Ke6 64.b4 Rb1 65.c6 Rc1 66.b5 Rc4+ 67.Ke3 Kd6 68.Kd3 Rc1 69.f4 Rc4 70.f5 Rd4+ 71.Ke3 Re4+ (1.98) Depth: 23/88 00:12:48 1186mN

May-31-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  cormier:


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Analysis by Houdini

1. = (0.00): 48...Qxb3 49.Rf4 Rc7 50.Rxf5 exf5 51.Nh4 Qd5+ 52.f3 f4 53.Re8 Qa2+ 54.Kh3 Rxe8 55.Qxe8+ Kh7 56.Qe4+ Kg8 57.h7+ Kh8 58.Qe8+ Kxh7 59.Qh5+ Kg8 60.Qe8+ Kh7 61.Qh5+

2. = (0.00): 48...Qd7 49.a4 b4 50.Rh1 Qe8 51.Qg4 Qd7 52.Nd2 Qd5 53.Nc4 Nxh6 54.Rxh6 f5 55.Qg6 Qxe4+ 56.Kf1 Qb1+ 57.Kg2 Qe4+ 58.Kf1

3. = (0.00): 48...Ref7 49.Rg4 Ne7 50.Qe4 Qxb3 51.Qxe6 Qxe6 52.Rxe6 Rc8 53.Nd2 Nf5 54.Ne4 Nxh6 55.Nd6 Rcc7 56.Rg3 Rf8 57.f4 Kh7 58.Rb3 Kg6 59.Kf3 Nf5 60.Kg4 Nh6+ 61.Kf3 Nf5

May-31-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  cormier:


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Analysis by Houdini d 25 :

1. (0.72): 48...Qb3 49.Rf4 Rff7 50.Rg4 Qc2 51.Rxe6 Nh4+ 52.Nxh4 Qxg6 53.Rxg6 Rxe6 54.Nf5 Ra7 55.hxg7 Re8 56.Rxf6 Rc8 57.Rh6 Rxg7+ 58.Nxg7 Kxg7 59.Rd6 b4 60.axb4 axb4 61.Rd7+ Kf6 62.Rb7 Ke6 63.Rxb4 Rg8+ 64.Kf1 Kd5 65.f3 Ra8 66.Kf2 Ra3 67.Kg3 Ra8 68.Kf2 Ra3

May-31-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  cormier:


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Analysis by Houdini d 31 : draw

1. = (0.00): 48...Qd7 49.a4 b4 50.Rf4 Qe8 51.Qxe8 Rfxe8 52.Nd2 g5 53.Rfe4 Nh4+ 54.Kg3 Nf5+ 55.Kg2 Nh4+

2. = (0.00): 48...Qd7 49.Nh4 Nxh6 50.Qh5 f5 51.Rf4 Qd5+ 52.Kg1 Rf6 53.Ng6 Rc7 54.Rh4 Qxb3 55.Ne5 Qd5 56.Qe8+ Rf8 57.Qg6 Rf6 58.Qe8+ Rf8

3. = (0.00): 48...Qd7 49.b4 axb4 50.axb4 Qe8 51.Qxe8 Rfxe8 52.hxg7 Rxg7+ 53.Kf1 Kf7 54.Ra1 Rgg8 55.Ra7+ Re7 56.Ra6 Rc7 57.Rf4 Rh8 58.Kg2 Rh5 59.Rb6 Ke7 60.Rg4 Rh7 61.Rf4 Rh5 62.Rg4

May-31-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  cormier:


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Analysis by Houdini d 27: draw

1. = (0.00): 49.Rg4 Ne7 50.Qe4 Qxb3 51.Qxe6 Qxe6 52.Rxe6 Rc8 53.Nd2 Nd5 54.Kf3 g5 55.Ne4 Rcc7 56.Nd6 Rf8 57.Rge4 Kh7 58.Ne8 Rc8 59.Nd6 Rc7 60.Ne8

2. = (0.00): 49.b4 axb4 50.axb4 Ne7 51.Qg3 Nf5 52.Qg6 Ne7

3. = (0.00): 49.Rf4 Ne7 50.Qg4 Nf5 51.Qg6 Ne7

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