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|May-20-09|| ||kap54: Looks to me like a draw by repitition with an incorrect final move in the game score. Black plays 54...Kd4 and it's game over. I see no reason why black would back himself into a corner.|
|May-20-09|| ||CHESSTTCAMPS: The circumstances certainly seem to suggest an incorrect (or misread) scoresheet: It makes no sense to repeat twice then vary on the 3rd and also have both players make blunders of this magnitude.|
|May-20-09|| ||paulalbert: I thought this one was fairly easy. Surprized a high level player would miss it. Paul Albert|
|May-20-09|| ||WhiteRook48: I knew it began with 55 a3+!!|
|May-20-09|| ||gawain: That's great! Took me a few minutes but I eventually saw it. If the game score is correct then poor Gurevitch was probably lulled by the repetition of moves that preceded this. |
Why on earth did Black fail to play 54...Kd4 to secure the draw by threefold rep?
Maybe he felt that he had winning chances! He has two extra pawns after all.
|May-20-09|| ||Utopian2020: White blunders by settling for a draw when there was a forced checkmate on the board: 55.a3+ Ka4 56.Rc4! bxc4 57.Bc6#. Yep, that's a mistake I might make. Even a 2600+ rated player is human.|
|May-20-09|| ||keypusher: <paulalbert: I thought this one was fairly easy. Surprized a high level player would miss it. Paul Albert>|
Two high level players, even! It's a very pretty combination.
|May-20-09|| ||AnalyzeThis: This game shows the wisdom of Reshevsky's approach. After his opponent made a move, Reshevsky would deliberately look at the position at though he was seeing it for the first time, with no preconceived notions.|
|May-20-09|| ||njchess: I doubt time was a factor in this oversight. White simply missed mate in three. At least, it wasn't too obvious. I wonder if Black saw it?|
|May-20-09|| ||I Like Fish: how could he miss...
that even i...
|May-20-09|| ||SamAtoms1980: 55 a3+ Good morning.
55 ... Ka4 56 Rc4+ Good afternoon.
56 ... bxc4 57 Bc6 mate.
|May-20-09|| ||TheTamale: Whoo hoo! Got it on a Wednesday. Smart offer of the draw by Black.|
|May-20-09|| ||eainca: I agree that there seems to be an excess of draws but solutions to the problem is itself problematic. For example, a player who is "lost" manages to pull off a series of moves that lead to a 3 move repetition, should the player who pulls that off not be allowed to draw (or be penalized some other way)?|
Don't forget the players that play positionally to the extent that a draw will be the result unless his opponent pushes to hard and loses (Tigran comes to mind). And I do not know how to get rid of the 'gentelmans" draw.
The only possible solution would be to award more prize money for full points than for 1/2 points. Say that there is a 10 round match, wins 1 & 2 would net X $, 3 & 4 maybe 2X $ and so on. The tournament winner may not end up being the money winner.
|May-20-09|| ||dramas79: Reminds me of Shirov's win in a similar situation with black.|
|May-20-09|| ||PinnedPiece: Hah! 55.a3. Got this in less than two minutes. Knew black King in trouble with only one free square. Thought a rook sac was in the cards.|
All because I knew this was a puzzle.
If black had offered a draw after 54 moves to this point, I would probably have taken it too!!!
|May-20-09|| ||akapovsky: I did a similar mistake myself during nationals.|
|May-20-09|| ||PinnedPiece: <kap54: Looks to me like a draw by repitition with an incorrect final move in the game score. Black plays 54...Kd4 and it's game over. I see no reason why black would back himself into a corner.>|
This is believable. The a3 move is a little too easy to spot/ignore.
The only thing *really* wrong may be the final note in the analysis...which is probably incorrect.
|May-20-09|| ||lzromeu: If black moves Kd4, white don't need to repeat '3'. axb3 for example, and the the games cames for a draw with a parcial stalemate.|
I think that draw is a good result, a
gentleman result. Probabily the anotation dont see this point: Justice
Good game, weird but good
ps: Hey all. Thatīs my first kiblitz, Im improving my english, sorry at moment.
|May-20-09|| ||Lightboxes: Got the first move in 1.7 seconds and solved it in 2.9 seconds. Then I yelled out "NO WAY!" Funny way to win. (I always use a stop watch with these puzzles for analysis purposes).|
|May-20-09|| ||Funicular: Yeah, much logical and intuitive than yesterday's. Easy to grasp. I love this kind of...well i donīt know what they are called in english. In spanish it would be Falsos Resultados, meaning literally false results. If someone can give me the heads up about what they call this positions when a draw is declared when there was winning opportunities (or likewise someone resigns when itīs a theoretical draw)|
Thanx in advance
|May-20-09|| ||Milesdei: If I were White I'd contemplate suicide. How did he miss this when every patzer on this site including me saw it in five seconds?|
|May-20-09|| ||dumbgai: Saw it immediately. Cute mate, it's unfortunate White didn't see it.|
|May-20-09|| ||tivrfoa: <Milesdei>agree. strange for > 2600|
|May-21-09|| ||hedgeh0g: I was playing a noob the other day and I was two Rooks up, but I got cocky and made myself vulnerable to a stalemate trap (the ol' Rook-follows-King-around-on-adjacent-squares-che-
Of course he didn't find it :P
|Jun-01-09|| ||patzer2: Instead of settling for the draw, White should have gone for the mate-in-three with 55. a3+! Ka4 56. Rc4+ bxc4 57. Bc6#.|
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