| May-08-07 | | Trimagna: 1. d4 Nf6
2. c4 e6
3. Nf3 Be7
4. Nc3 d5
5. Bg5 O-O
6. e3 Nbd7
7. Rc1 c6
8. Bd3 dxc4
9. Bxc4 Nd5
10. Bxe7 Qxe7
11. O-O Nxc3
12. Rxc3 e5
13. dxe5 Nxe5
14. Nxe5 Qxe5
15. f4 Qe7
16. f5 Qf6
17. Qg4 |
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| Apr-03-11 | | Infohunter: <Trimagna> Is there a point to this series of moves _vis à vis_ this game? |
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| Apr-03-11 | | picard: 30 ...Be4! (then of course not 31. fxe4?? Qg2+ 32. Kh1 Rxe2 and white must give up the queen for a rook) |
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| Apr-03-11 | | rilkefan: Really cute that black plays both 26...Ng4 and 30...Be4, not bothering about f3. |
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Apr-03-11
 | | Phony Benoni: I sort of get the point of the pun, "Baer" being the equivalent of "Bär", at least as far as American spellers are concerned. See the whole "Saemisch" vs. "Sämisch" thing. My impression is of a decently played game, if not overwhelmingly thrilling. 21...e5 was almost surely a deliberate sacrifice, and Black exploited the f-file well. As <rilkefan> points out, 26...Nf6 and 30...Be4 add an amusing touch. |
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| Apr-03-11 | | rilkefan: I didn't get the pun for a while because "Bär" is pronounced rather like "bear" and just didn't remind me of "bar" (and for that matter "Graf" sounds like "grahf" not "graph") - though to be precise some folks do say "bar" for the animal that you can't outrun but don't need to if your friend is slower than you are. |
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Apr-03-11
| | Phony Benoni: <rilkefan> Thought the pronunciation might be off, but I was waiting for someone who actually knew German to confirm it. I have enough trouble pronouncing English correctly. |
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Apr-03-11
 | | HeMateMe: "Baer None" |
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Apr-03-11
| | HeMateMe: Is "bogo" a reference to the 20th century GM Bogolyubov, or is this something else? |
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| Apr-03-11 | | Ratt Boy: <HeMateMe>: Yeah, the opening is indeed named for the dood who once said, "When I have White, I win because I have White; when I have Black, I win because I am Bogolyubov."
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efim_B... . I'd always thought it was just a slightly amusing bit of arrogance. Turns out, it's also a pun. |
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Apr-03-11
| | HeMateMe: He liked his beer, too. |
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| Apr-03-11 | | Eduardo Leon: <Ratt Boy: Yeah, the opening is indeed named for the dood who once said, "When I have White, I win because I have White; when I have Black, I win because I am Bogolyubov." See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efim_B... . I'd always thought it was just a slightly amusing bit of arrogance. Turns out, it's also a pun.> Has anyone ever called him <Bozo>ljubow? Certainly, his matches against Alekhine made him look like a bozo. |
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| Apr-03-11 | | JohnBoy: <Eduardo Leon> - not much else made him look like a bozo. I would love to have the skills to play for the world title TWICE. |
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Apr-03-11
 | | scormus: 21 ... e5 looked to me a rather neat p-sac. Not sure if it was wise to take it. Not sure if it would have been wise to call <Bogo>ljubow <Bozo>ljubow either. |
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| Apr-03-11 | | rilkefan: Did black see 38...Qd4 when playing 27.Qf6? |
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Apr-03-11
| | Phony Benoni: <rilkefan: Did black see 38...Qd4 when playing 27...Qf6?> I would say no. It's more a case of good things happening when the pieces are put on good squares. 
click for larger viewBlack realizes he will need to move the ♘g4 eventually, and e3 certainly seems a good square for it. If White trades knights, the d-pawn goes to e3 and suddenly the whole a1-h8 diagonal opens up. So why not prepare to occupy it with 27...Qf6, especially if you can do so while forcing White to reply to the threat of 28...d3? Black didn't have to foresee the next ten moves to do that, and probably couldn't do so in any event; there are too many unforced possibilities. All he had to realize was that the queen had more potential on f6 than f7. Developing your pieces effectively is not a concept limited to the opening. |
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| Apr-03-11 | | WhiteRook48: that is one of the worst puns I have ever seen |
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| Apr-03-11 | | Lil Swine: i can hear the rimshot fading in the distance |
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| Apr-03-11 | | tonsillolith: <that is one of the worst puns I have ever seen> Yes, I miss the days when the puns actually related to something - the game, for instance. Nowadays they're just randoms concoctions. |
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Apr-03-11
 | | Peligroso Patzer: < *** I miss the days when the puns actually related to something - the game, for instance. Nowadays they're just randoms concoctions.> I largely agree, although the CG GotD puns still do sometimes relate to the game. Nevertheless, they seem to do so less often than formerly; these days there are too many conrived puns based solely on the players' names. As far as the players' names in this game not being pronounced precisely "bar" and "graph", this does not seem to me valid grounds for criticism. Puns generally (not only on CG.com) are often based on similar (but non-identical) pronunciations. |
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| Apr-03-11 | | rilkefan: <<PB>: So why not prepare to occupy it> Per your excellent explanation I'd say black did see ...Qd4 - I don't much care about the 38. part. When I asked the question I was wondering about Nimzowitsch's "the threat is stronger than the execution", about all I recall from him, and which I don't actually believe is true. If I were playing this I would have to consider whether I should save Qf6 till later, or whether Qh5 might be good at some point. On playing through the sequence again I see that Qf6 removes any chance of white playing Bd5, which is another plus. |
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| Apr-04-11 | | kevin86: The cat vs the bear...
The large group of pawns will overcome the rook's blockade after... 45 duff d3+ followed by ♖xd1 |
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Kibitzing
sac: 34...R8xe4