|Apr-29-07|| ||Confuse: this is a draw? was there time trouble? or is it a perpetual?|
|Apr-30-07|| ||Hot Logic: With his [exposed] king where it is I don't see Leko able to press for a win in the final position.|
|Apr-30-07|| ||artemis: <confuse> and <hotlogic> you seem to be under the idea that Leko is winning in the final position. Kramnik's position is by far prefferable. |
Kramnik felt that, in the final position, that he was winning, although he could not see any tangible line. it turns out that Leko actually played 30. Kg2 then offered the draw. Kramnik accepted because it meant that he won the match.
|Apr-30-07|| ||Confuse: I see. thank you <artemis> but is there a tactical or positional explanation? I'm afraid I need more clarification : x|
|Apr-30-07|| ||Hot Logic: I may have used the wrong wording but I only meant that Leko could not play for a win.|
Although there is a material imblance white's pawns aren't as good as black's. Black has a pawn for the exchange and his minor pieces are centrally placed and supported. It is a draw because Leko can't win.
It is not a 'forced' draw. Both players can play on if they want to, but are instead happy to draw.
|May-01-07|| ||Confuse: Hot Logic I'm not sure I follow - according to chessbase and artemis and kramnik, they all felt kramnik had an advantage. If its as you say, I wonder why Leko with his one point disadvantage wouldn't push and see if a win came out?|
|May-01-07|| ||Ulhumbrus: Some annotations according to Berkes and Meszaros on the playchess website : < 14.Be3?! White might to close the position by all means, because he is behind in development. We think the logical continuation would be 14.d5 Now most likely 14...Ne7 15.Bc2 Ng6 (15...Nxe4?! 16.Bxe4 f5 17.Bb1 e4 18.h3 Bh5 19.g4!; 15...Nexd5!? 16.exd5 e4 17.h3 Bh5 18.g4 exf3 19.gxh5 Qd7 20.Qxf3 Qxb5 21.Bxh6 Qxd5 22.Qxd5 Nxd5 23.Bd2 ) 16.h3 Bd7 17.c4 can happen and in spite of the feeling that Black has enough compensation we cannot find any satisfying follow-up. For example: 17...Nh5 (or 17...Bxb5 18.cxb5 Qd7 19.Qe2 ) 18.Nxe5 Nxe5 19.Qxh5 Nxc4 20.Nc3 . 14...d5! Typical blow in the center which lands White in difficulty at once. 15.exd5 Nxd5 16.h3. 16.Qd3 Bxf3 17.gxf3 Nce7! 18.Kh1 c6 19.Na3 exd4 20.cxd4 Ng6 .19...Be4?! Kramnik's play is comfortable, actually he can do whatever he wants. Don't forget that drawing this game would mean the win of the match for him. 19...Qd6! 20.Kg2 (20.Nc4? Nxe3! 21.fxe3 Qg3+) 20...Nf4+ 21.Bxf4 Qxf4 > After 29 Kf3 Berkes and Meszaros give 29...Qg5! 30.Bb3 h5 31.Rg1 Ne6 |
|May-01-07|| ||Hot Logic: Oh, right, I see what you mean now. I think I understand where the misunderstanding comes from.|
When I said "It's a draw because Leko can't win" I meant as soon as Leko had no more winning chances the 8-game match belonged to Kramnik. Kramnik could win the match immediately by accepting a draw and he did.