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Veselin Topalov vs Liviu Dieter Nisipeanu
Mtel Masters (2007)  ·  Scandinavian Defense: Gubinsky-Melts Defense (B01)  ·  0-1
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May-10-07  Dr.Lecter: Why did Nisipeanu play 43....Bd4? I don't get why white can't play 44.Bxd4
May-11-07  bogo78: <Dr.Lecter: Why did Nisipeanu play 43....Bd4? I don't get why white can't play 44.Bxd4> Because of the answer ...44 Nxf4 and the Q is forked. Note both Knights are eying that square. Probably Topalov took one of them (44. Bxe6)just to eliminate this threat.
May-11-07  aragorn69: <ivan999: I think he just overpushed.> I agree : Topa had the upper hand most of the game (bishop pair, space advantage, initiative), but he couldn't find a win and didn't sense the danger after the time control.
May-11-07
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  jahhaj: <Hesam7> <and this looks like a draw> As long a white avoids 48...Qxd6 49.cxd6 Kf8 50.Kf4 Ke8 51.Ke5?? Kd7 which loses. But 51.Ke4 Kd7 52.Ke5 c5 53.Kd5 c4 54.Kxc4 Kxd6 55.Kd4 is a draw.
May-11-07  ivan999: I think Topa will play e4 even less now. d4 looks better for him, its harder to get home cooked or surprised with some less used defense.
May-11-07  ivan999: The commenting GM Ermenkov said that Topa was unlucky too. Ermenkov said that in 90 percent of chess games space advantage gets you the win, in 10 gets you the opposite and in this case Topa was in the 10 percent unfortunately.
May-11-07
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  cornflake: jahhaj: <Hesam7> <and this looks like a draw> As long a white avoids 48...Qxd6 49.cxd6 Kf8 50.Kf4 Ke8 51.Ke5?? Kd7 which loses. But 51.Ke4 Kd7 52.Ke5 c5 53.Kd5 c4 54.Kxc4 Kxd6 55.Kd4 is a draw.

what about 48...Qe4,48...Qe8 or even 48...Qe1+? the exchange of queens isn't forced. Nispeanu certainly would keep the Queens on the board.

May-11-07  Mateo: A quiet game until move 40. Then Topalov began to overpush.

40.b5?! looks weird, instead of 40.Nxc3 Qxg4 with an equal game.

I cannot see any reason why Nisipeanu could not play, instead of 40...Qe1+?!, 40...Nxb5. After 41.f5 gxf5 42.Qxf5 Be1+ 43.Kg2 Qd5+ 44.Qxd5 cxd5, Black won a pawn. The compensation is questionable.

As many people noticed 43.Qd3?? was a topalovian blunder (another one).

But did anyone noticed that Nisipeanu missed a mate on move 46? 46...Qg2+ 47.Kh4 Qh2+ 48.Bh3 Qf2+ 49.Ng3 Qxf4+ 50.Bg4 Qxg4, mate.

Of course, 46...Qf3+ wins too but not so fast.

The final position could be a nice little puzzle. 48.Kh4 Qh2+ 49.Bh3 Ng2+ 50.Kg4 Qxh3+! 51.Kxh3 Nxf4+, Black wins.

May-11-07  yalie: read somewhere that Nisipeaunu plans to use the qd6 scandinavian in more games at Mtel. despite the 0-1 result from this game, to my patzer eyes, this opening looks a lil shaky. I wonder how the opening would fare without the surprise value.
May-11-07  Resignation Trap: Both Topalov and Nisipeanu discuss the game in the press conference after the round here: http://www.chesspro.ru/_events/2007... .
May-11-07
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  Softpaw: <yalie: read somewhere that Nisipeaunu plans to use the qd6 scandinavian in more games at Mtel.>

In the post game interview at Chesspro.ru, Nisipeanu says that of course he employed the Scandinavian defense for its surprise value, but he believes also that it is somewhat under-appreciated.

May-12-07
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  notyetagm: Position after 43 Qe4-d3?? Bc3-d4!:


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The White e3-bishop and e2-knight must DEFEND the f4-tactical base of the light-squared Black d5-,e6-knights. <CONTROLLING ONE SQUARE IS A FULL-TIME JOB: IF YOU CONTROL ONE SQUARE, THEN YOU CANNOT CONTROL ANOTHER.> The White e3-bishop must DEFEND the f4-square, so it cannot also DEFEND the d4-square. Likewise, the White e2-knight must DEFEND the f4-square, so it too cannot also DEFEND the d4-square. Hence neither the White e3-bishop nor e2-knight actually DEFENDS the d4-square, keeping the Black dark-squared c3-bishop out, hence the winning tactical shot 43 ... Bc3-d4!

May-22-07  Ulhumbrus: 16 dxe5?! attracts suspicion because it spends a move upon exchanging and on moving a pawn, instead of upon developing. Black's reply 16...Nxe5, on the other hand, develops Black's QN. Instead of 16 dxe5?! 16 Be3 keeps a considerable advantage and may lead to an eventual win.
Sep-03-07
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  notyetagm: Every time I play over this game I am amazed at Topalov's blunder 43 Qe4-d3?. This move creates the <KNIGHT FORK ALIGNMENT> White g2-king and White d3-queen for the two count'em two light-squared Black d5- and e6-knights.

Nisipeanu's brilliant 43 ... Bc3-d4!! then hits the nail on the head, showing Topalov the error of his last move. The tactical point is that neither the White e3-bishop nor the White e2-knight actually <DEFENDS> the d4-square since they are =both= tied down to the defense of the f4-square, trying to prevent a <DOUBLE ROYAL KNIGHT FORK> on that square.

Sep-03-07
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  notyetagm: Beautiful game by Nisipeanu.
Oct-19-07  Alphastar: The ending of this game shows a huge disadvantage of advancing your pawns too far: All black pieces easily infiltrate into the white position and menace the white king.
Apr-05-08
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  notyetagm: Position after 43 Qe4-d3? Bc3-d4!!


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What a beautiful way to beat a top grandmaster like Topalov, 43 ... Bc3-d4!!.

Jul-09-08  mmmsplay10: 43.??? white to move and mess up the game big time.
Jul-09-08  Hector Maluy: Why not 8)..Qxb2? Sometimes it does work. However in this case I see that white can have advantage if black takes pawn:

8)..Qxb2?
9)Rb1 Qa3
10)Bxb8 Rxb8
11)Bxc6+ and white looks better here.
What do you think?

Jul-11-08  Ulhumbrus: <notyetagm: ...Nisipeanu's brilliant 43 ... c3-d4!! then hits the nail on the head, showing Topalov the error of his last move. The tactical point is that neither the White e3-bishop nor the White e2-knight actually <DEFENDS> the d4-square since they are =both= tied down to the defense of the f4-square, trying to prevent a <DOUBLE ROYAL KNIGHT FORK> on that square.> Bravo!
Jun-15-09  Bobsterman3000: How did Nisipeanu manage to win after the colossal blunder 1...d5 ??

:-)

Oct-20-09
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  jmboutiere: 9.Qc1 +0.05 Rybka 3
14.c4 +0.29
20.c5 +0.10; 20. Nd4 +0.24
23. g4 +0.00; 23.Nd4 +0.33
39.Kf2 - 0.36; 39.Kg3 - 0.10
40.b5 - 0.51; 40.Nc3 -0.36
43.Qd3 - 6.59; 43.Nc3 - 0.53
45.Kh2 mate in 6
Nov-13-12
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  Garech: Very pretty game; will try and think up a pun!

-Garech

Nov-13-12  rilkefan: Black ice never melts in Scandinavia?
Aug-02-13  brazil chess: Well took me a long time to figure out a winning move here 48... Kh4 49.Qf3!! is that the way to go?
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