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|Jun-09-07|| ||Ezzy: Hi <Mateo:>
A solid player like Leko who ventures into the realm of 'pawn sacrifices' probably deserve a double exclamation mark against his 18 d5. :-)
<Even if White may have some compensation after 18.d5!?, Bareev should have taken the challenge, since 18...e5? is just in my opinion the same as a positional resignation>
I agree. It would never be in my repertoire to allow protected passed pawns, unless the position was completely blocked or ultra solid.
|Jun-09-07|| ||alexmagnus: I have some bug, it always displays games without the black king...|
|Jun-09-07|| ||cdm511: Caro-Kanned or Caro-Kannot, could be titles for this game.|
|Jun-09-07|| ||Richard Taylor: Caro Cant?|
|Jun-09-07|| ||Chessmensch: The failure of black to castle with the attendant use of tempi was curious. Would anyone care to discuss the various ending possibilities after move 41? Thanks.|
|Jun-09-07|| ||kevin86: "A time for Bareev-ment". I believe that black is "dead" in this match.|
I don't know if it was opening flaws,but black seemed to want to play a very active game so passively. It was as if he set up pieces for an attack that never happened.
|Jun-09-07|| ||Ezzy: <Would anyone care to discuss the various ending possibilities after move 41? Thanks> Black can't avoid heavy material loss. Here are some lines to play through - |
41...Rxe4 42.Rxe4 Bd7 43.Re6 Bxe6 44.Rxe6 Be5 45.Bxe5 Nxe5 46.Qxe5 Kf7 47.Rxf6+ Qxf6 48.Qxf6+ Kxf6 49.g4
41...Bxf4 42.gxf4 Rxe4 43.Rxe4 Kh7 44.Re8 Rf5 45.Qxg6+ Kxg6 46.Rxd8 Ba6
41...Be5 42.Nxf6 Qxf6 43.Bxe5 Rxe5 44.fxe5 Qe7 45.Rf1 Bd7 46.Rf6 Qe8 47.Re2
41...Bd7 42.Bxf6+ Qxf6 43.Nxf6 Rxe3 44.Rxe3 Kxf6 45.Qxh6 Bd6 46.Kf2
41...Kf7 42.Ng5+ Kg7 <(42...hxg5 43.Qh7+ Kf8 44.Bxf6 Qxf6 <<(44...Rxe3 45.Qg7+ Ke8 46.Rxe3+ Be5 47.Qxg6+ Kf8 48.Qg7+ Ke8 49.Qg8+ Kd7 50.QxdMate)>> 45.Rxe8#)> 43.Rxe8]
All these lines show how black cannot escape heavy material loss.
|Jun-09-07|| ||cuendillar: <cdm> I prefer "overcoming the Bareev"|
|Jun-09-07|| ||playground player: Is there a general opinion among the chess community that media coverage of important chess events is vulgar? Otherwise there seems to be no explanation for holding these events in the middle of Siberia. I think chess would greatly benefit if there were a lot more public interest in it--but what reporter wants to get shipped out to Kalmykia?|
|Jun-09-07|| ||slomarko: <playground player> they were the only one who found the money to sponsor the whole thing.|
|Jun-09-07|| ||Chessmensch: <Ezzy> Thanks much. I like your bio, too.|
|Jun-09-07|| ||Ezzy: <Chessmensch: Ezzy Thanks much.> You're welcome <I like your bio, too.> Cheers!|
|Jun-09-07|| ||Sboldm7: playground player: Kalmykia is not in Siberia. It is just north of the Caucasus on the shore of the Caspian Sea. Not much different than Iceland as a venue.|
|Jun-09-07|| ||fm avari viraf: After the opening phase, Leko got the slight initiative which he nicely converted into a winning game. All White's pieces are in adominant position ready to pounce where Black's heavy loss of material is inevitable. Alas, Bareev was bereft of hope.|
|Jun-09-07|| ||Ezzy: My pun - 'Leko KO's Bareev in round 3'|
|Jun-09-07|| ||thunderhrom: bareev...bereaved...the comedy geniuses at chessgames.com are working overtime...|
|Jul-18-07|| ||bettermove: How about 10....Nf6
(rather than 10.Qxe4 Qc7).
Might that have been a better move here?
|Jul-18-07|| ||Karpova: <bettermove>
Just another variation:
Kamsky vs Karpov, 1993
|Jul-18-07|| ||bettermove: Thanks <Karpova> for highlighting that stem game.|
I am interested in these lines from the White point of view and this opening seems to give white exciting chances against the Caro-Kann.
2 other games of related interest from the Kamsky-Karpov stem page are
M Palac vs H Meyer 1999 Geneva Open 1-0
N Fercec vs I Sitnik 2006 Zagreb Open 1-0
Right that gives me a lot to analyse!
|Sep-17-12|| ||vinidivici: how about 37...fxe4?|
|Sep-17-12|| ||vinidivici: how about it|
|Sep-17-12|| ||vinidivici: no answer?|
|Sep-18-12|| ||vinidivici: cant believe this|
|Sep-18-12|| ||Shams: <vinidivici> Sometimes it takes a while for questions to be answered; please don't pound the table. Also people are more likely to respond when the questioner has made some effort at offering variations himself. |
Lastly, your question has already been answered on this forum, the searching of which is hardly onerous as there are only two pages of kibitzing.
|Sep-18-12|| ||optimal play: <Shams:<vinidivici> Sometimes it takes a while for questions to be answered;> That's right <vinidivici> For example I recently answered someone's question on another page N Galopoulos vs N Milchev, 2008 and he didn't even have to wait 3 years, so just be patient.|
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