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|Jul-09-07|| ||TheBB: <syracrophy> Of course, but I'd rather have it explained in normal font. It's just being exagarrated to the point of sillyness.|
|Jul-09-07|| ||notyetagm: <syracrophy: ... Nice analysis <notyetagm>! Keep on doing your thing!
Not my analysis, Mig's from www.chessninja.com.
|Jul-09-07|| ||WarmasterKron: 38...Kg6!, 41...Qf4!? good old Shirov! It's a pity he missed 41...a1Q!! - what's better than sacrificing a queen? Sacrificing two, obviously. Brilliant line.|
|Jul-09-07|| ||notyetagm: <WarmasterKron: 38...Kg6!, 41...Qf4!? good old Shirov! It's a pity he missed 41...a1Q!! - what's better than sacrificing a queen? Sacrificing two, obviously. Brilliant line.>|
Yes, 41 ... a2-a1=!! is stupendous. And then you have the great line given by Mig:
Position after 41 ... a2-a1=!!
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<Or, and this is really cool, 42.Rxf6+ Qxf6 43.Qxf6+ Qxf6 (three consecutive Qxf6 can't be very common...) 44.gxf6 looks like a fairly simple endgame win for Black, but he doesn't need no stinkin' endgame: 44..Be3 and it's forced mate in one on g5 or f2! Get Horwitz and Kling on the line.>
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44 ... c5-e3! and mate cannot be avoided!
This line would have been the combination of the year if Shirov had played it. If only he had changed the <MOVE ORDER> and played ... a2-a1=!! first and =then= played the queen sacrifice ... f2-f4+.
|Jul-09-07|| ||jon01: Great game, I surely wouldn't like to be white king in that position.|
|Jul-09-07|| ||notyetagm: <jon01: Great game, I surely wouldn't like to be white king in that position.>|
Yes, a very stark reminder that the single most important thing in chess is <KING SAFETY>.
The king being <STALEMATED> or <TRAPPED> on the edge of the board as it is here creates all =kinds= of incredible tactical opportunities, such as the ... a2-a1=!! idea seen in this game.
Too bad for Shirov that he couldn't get Aronian into a position like this last month so that we could see his great tactical genius when it counted the most.
|Jul-09-07|| ||BipolarChessorder: Why didn't Gelfand play 40. Qxf6+ ? How does black win from there?|
|Jul-10-07|| ||syracrophy: <<BipolarChessorder: Why didn't Gelfand play 40. Qxf6+ ? How does black win from there?>>|
40.xf6+ xf6 41.gxf6 a2 42.d1 d4 and "That's all, folks...!"
|Jul-10-07|| ||benveniste: What a wild sequence after move 40!
I don't see a win for black after 41. xc5.
After 41. f5, a1= creates a truly amusing situation. If white takes either "hanging" queen, mate follows immediately. White can escape immediate mate with 42. b3.
|Jul-10-07|| ||Jim Bartle: Straight into the "Fire on Board 3" file.|
|Jul-10-07|| ||kingsindian2006: have people forgot this is a RAPID game...!!!!
For shirov to have played this combo under the time control and situation in the game is no doubt the combo of the year...
Forget about museums if you want to see a masterpiece here you go for free...:)
|Jul-10-07|| ||Jim Bartle: No, I haven't forgotten it's a rapid game...because I didn't know that until now.|
|Jul-11-07|| ||syracrophy: <benveniste> <...I don't see a win for black after 41.xc5>|
After 41.xc5 bxc5 and now White has to stop 42...fxg5#, and if 42.xf6+ xf6 and the promotes, or 42.gxf6 xf6+ exchanges s and promotes
|Jul-14-07|| ||benveniste: <syracrophy>, if black plays bxc5, white responds 42. e5, giving black the choice of a stalemate (fxe5) or a perpetual check.|
|Jul-14-07|| ||syracrophy: <benveniste: <syracrophy>, if black plays bxc5, white responds 42. e5, giving black the choice of a stalemate (fxe5) or a perpetual check.>|
Don't take it too serious. It was just a blitz game anyways ;-)
|Jul-14-07|| ||Kublo: where is the perpetual check on 42. e5? 42.e5 fxg5 43.Qxg5. and then?
However awesome play , well played by both. Obviously 41...a1=Q would have been much better.|
|Sep-04-07|| ||znprdx: Perhaps all this analysis is a bit too much hot air :)? Couldn't Shirov have forced the winning theme earlier with 37...Kh6 which seems to oblige 38.Qf8 (to stop Qxf4 > Bf2 combo) unless somehow R or Q to d3 is a spoiler which I don't see. After ...Be3 it is all over before time control.|
|Nov-22-07|| ||miguel12: This was a rapid game?!? Wow, I wouldnt have seen this combo in a 2 hr game.|
|Dec-30-07|| ||An Englishman: Good Afternoon: The whole game is interesting. The first original move is White's 19th; Last year Gelfand tried the immediate Rook capture and drew quickly against van Woely <sp?>. Those two outside passed pawns don't look like much, but Black's position seems to be a pretty tough fortress to crack. Perhaps White needs to blockade the pawns sooner.|
|Feb-07-08|| ||hitman84: Simply brilliant!|
|May-22-08|| ||addiction to chess: Simply Genius!|
|Aug-09-10|| ||WhiteRook48: hmm... can someone refute 51. e7 for me?|
|Aug-09-10|| ||OhioChessFan: 51...Qe1+|
|Dec-03-10|| ||sevenseaman: <WarmasterKron>'s line starting with 41..a2-a1Q is brilliant and simple but if Shirov had taken that route it is quite likely his brilliant line of 41...Qf2-f4 may have not been discovered at all.|
That it came out of the complex labyrinths of Alexey Shirov's mind is a boon for the game and I am sure it has given immeasurable mirth to the aficionados.
I like both lines but am very impressed with the text line.
|Aug-18-11|| ||DrMAL: Shirov made a great exchange sac, after 22...Rxe7 I would much rather play black in this classic Grunfeld imbalance.|
28.g3 and 29.Kg2 was not so good and after 31...a3 the pawn was looking scary. With 33.Rd7 Qf6 34.f4 about all white can get is a draw. In the sequence that followed white got squeezed until 39.Qc3? (39.Rd3 was the only move to survive).
29...a2! wins quickly and 39...f6 40.gxf6 is not decisive, but after 40.Rd5? black was winning. The seemingly ridiculous 41...a1Q!! was actually fastest and forced mate but Shirov's 41...Qf4+! was crazy enough looking, beautiful finish by him!
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