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|Sep-17-07|| ||notyetagm: <centercounter: ... I think the defenders, Morozevich and Grischuk, deserve some applause here for making it as difficult as possible, thus saving the draws. They're 2700+ for a reason.|
Kasparov once said that one of the main differentiators of the super GM crowd is how difficult they are to beat - how doggedly (and often successfully) they defend even objectively lost positions.>
Yes, that was Kasparov's famous "resistance" comment, that the 2700s put up maximum resisitance and make you find one accurate move after another in order to beat them.
Today Kramnik and Anand both failed to overcome the resistance of their 2700 opponents and only managed to draw.
This result was bad for Kramnik but even worse for Anand, who had a much bigger advantage than Kramnik.
|Sep-17-07|| ||notyetagm: Could someone please post the <multiple wins> that Anand missed in this game? Thanks.|
|Sep-17-07|| ||you vs yourself: On move 44, giving up the f-pawn for the a2 pawn was weak. Then there was 56..Re8 that threw away the win.|
It could've been worse for Vishy. Gelfand could've played 22..Rxf4 and beat him in that game. He could've misplayed that rook endgame against Kramnik. Kramnik could've easily won against Grischuk today and have a half point lead. Instead Anand got a draw against Moro with black and is still tied for the lead.
|Sep-17-07|| ||Ezzy: Morozevich (2758) - Anand (2803) [D47]
FIDE World Championship Tournament 0:04:330:01:33 (4), 16.09.2007
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 d5 4.Nc3 c6 5.e3 Nbd7 6.Bd3 dxc4 7.Bxc4 b5 8.Bd3 Bb7 9.00 a6 10.e4 c5 11.d5 c4 12.Bc2 Qc7 13.dxe6 fxe6 14.Nd4 Nc5 15.Be3 e5 16.Nf5 g6<Novelty I think [16...Ncxe4 17.Nxe4 Nxe4 was the previous line. Black is a pawn up, but with moves like Re1 Qb1 Bf4 for white, there is enough initiative to win the pawn back.]> 17.Nh6 Bg7 18.Qf3 Ne6 <eyeing the d4 outpost> 19.Qh3 Bc8 <Threatening 20...Nd4 winning the c2 bishop> 20.Qh4 Qe7 21.Rfe1 Nd5 22.Qxe7+ Nxe7 23.Nd5 Bb7 24.Ng4 Nd4 25.Bd1 <[25.Nc7+ Kf7 26.Bxd4 exd4 27.Nxa8 Rxa8 28.e5 d3 29.Bd1 h5 30.e6+ Kg8 31.Ne5 Bd5 Where white has rook for bishop but black looks strong. This is probably better for white than the game continuation.]> 25...Nxd5 26.exd5 <White threatens 27 Bxd4 and the pawn can retake> 26...000 <Anand threatens 27...h5 when the knight is trapped> 27.Bg5 <[27.Bh6 Bxh6 28.Nxh6 May be better]> 27...Rxd5 28.b3 c3 29.Ne3 Rc5 30.Rc1 <With the idea 31 Be7 32 Bb4 winning the c3 pawn >30...Rc7 31.b4 Kb8 32.h3 h6 33.Bh4 Nf5 34.Nxf5 gxf5 35.Bc2 Rc4 36.Be7 <Threat 37 Bd6+ so...> 36...e4 37.Bb3 Rd4 38.Bc5 Rd3 39.Be6 Bc8 40.Bb3 Re8 41.Bf7 Re5 42.Be3 <Threat is 43 Bf4 Skewering the rook > 42...Re7 43.Bg6 Be6 44.h4 Bxa2?! <[44...Rd2 45.a3 Ra2 Is more active without surrendering his f5 pawn.]> 45.Bxf5 <Now white has the threat of 46 Bf4+ and 47 Rxe4> 45...Bd5 46.Bc5 Re8 47.f3 Kb7 48.fxe4 Bc6< Morozevich has unraveled himself from a cramped position and is back in the game.> 49.Kf2 Rd2+ 50.Ke3 Be5 <[50...h5 with idea's of 51..Bh6+ 52...Re5 53...Rxc5 are possible in some lines giving black 3 connected passed pawns on the queenside.]> 51.Kf3 Red8 52.Re3 Rg8 <Threatening 53 Rg3 Mate> 53.g4 Rh2 54.h5 Rd8 <Threatening 55...Rdd2 winning> 55.g5 Rxh5 56.Be7 Re8 <[56...Rd2 57.Re2 hxg5 58.Rxd2 cxd2 59.Rd1 Bc3 seems more active.]> 57.Kg4 Rh2 58.Bf6 Rg2+ 59.Kh3 Rh2+ 60.Kg4 Rg2+ 61.Kh3<It seems Anand has had enough of trying to win this. He had a great position, but Moro fought back well. ½½>
Extremely complicated these games with RR+BB V RR+BB as the pieces are long range and cover a lot of squares
|Sep-17-07|| ||sheaf: <anand-kramnik><anand almost lost as white> i dont believe anand was ever in danger of losing in that game, its true that black was better and the defense was not easy but there was never really a danger of losing as long as anand knew what he was doing, kramnik didnt miss any obvious winning move, on the other hand one must admit anand got outplayed in the opening, but played a decent endgame to save a draw. the endgame looked objectively drawn to me unless someone finds a brilliant technical win there. |
about this game it looks very messy around move 40, there must be a clever way to advance but draw is a fair result given the fact that anand owes moro half (maybe full) point from linares ;-). such a missed win doesnt really bother big players because everybody fails to convert them on a 'not so good' day.
|Sep-17-07|| ||you vs yourself: <such a missed win doesnt really bother big players>|
In a field like this, getting wins is incredibly tough. So any missed win will be a big disappointment.
Good thing for Anand is this missed win didn't happen in late rounds when he needed it really bad but instead just before a rest day. He has time to recover from it.
|Sep-17-07|| ||percyblakeney: Anand won't be happy with the result here as the game looked, but a draw with black isn't bad. Now he will have white in the two upcoming games and soon it will surely start to work better for him with white.|
|Sep-17-07|| ||Microdot: I am 100% sure if morozevich was black
in this position, convert the advantage very easy!!
Morozevich is my all time favorite player.
|Sep-17-07|| ||KamikazeAttack: <Kinda seems that way. And I am rooting for Anand, too! But he blew a win in this game and almost lost his White game to Kramnik. Don't know how he is going to become WC playing like this.>|
It is amusing how chess fans make huge judgements based on one or 2 games.
If a player wins 2 games brilliantly, then he is going to win the tournament, if he struggles in 2 consecutive games, then he is out of form and has no chance.
It is naive to read anything meaningful at this early stage. There are still 11 rounds to go or so lol.
|Sep-17-07|| ||slomarko: this tourney is not looking good for Anand:
round 1: achives nothing with white against Gelfand's Petroff. and the end lucky to draw
round 2: opening preparation agains Aronian (c5) and cashes a win
round 3: achives nothing as white against Kramnik's Petroff in the end very lucky to draw
round 4: opening novelty, reaches winning position against Moro but fails to win
so it seems he can't do anything against the Petroff (and since he only plays e4 he can't really avoid it) and i don't think he can hope to continue to find opening novelties as black in every game.
|Sep-17-07|| ||acirce: <This result was bad for Kramnik but even worse for Anand, who had a much bigger advantage than Kramnik.> A win is a win.|
|Sep-17-07|| ||Ulhumbrus: As when playing Aronian, Anand takes a great risk with Black, this time by keeping his K in the centre. However it is up to White to find a way to take advantage of it.|
The move 16...g6 disturbs Black's K side pawns. One alternative to 17 Nh6 is 17 f4, opening lines with Black's King still uncastled. One variation is 17 f4 gxf5 18 fxe5 Qxe5 19 Bd4 Qe7 20 Bxf6 Qxf6 21 Rxf5 Qg6 22 Re5+ Be7 23 Nd5 Bxd5 24 Qxd5 Rc8 25 Bd1 h5 26 Bxh5 Rxh5 27 Rxh5 Bf6 28 Rf1 Bxb2 29 Rg5 Qxe4 30 Rg8+ Ke7 31 Rf7 mate. However this is just one variation.
For the purposes of this contest, is Morozevich advised to try this? No, no. Morozevich is advised to enter the move into a computer, let the computer spew out a winning variation and THEN to try it.
Instead of 33...Nf5 33..Re8 develops the worst placed piece, the R on h8
Instead of 44...Bxa2, 44...Bf6 attacks the h pawn
|Sep-17-07|| ||sheaf: its not ery unusual for chessplayers to miss a win an absolutely messy position sometimes sides having an advantage even ends up losing , for example moro-anand linares 07 where moro missed a simple Bh6 at some point and allowed knight riot at the centre and ended up losing the game from a very advantageous position, so i dont think anand would be too disappointed with the result since the position after 37..Rd4 is winning for black but is full of complications and winning would have been a long hard struggle. having said that i agree it was winning and anand should have converted it.|
|Sep-17-07|| ||acirce: <Anand was equally harsh on himself - "It's a shame what I did today."|
Anand, like Kramnik, outprepared his opponent and was soon ahead on the board and on the clock. "After 23.Nd5 Bb7 I was a little worse and after a few more unfortunate moves I was completely lost," said Morozevich. "I thought that after 23.a4 Nf4 I would lose a piece but of course I have 24.g3. I really need to play a4."
"[In the end] it was not my achievement that I made a draw," Morozevich continued and Anand could only nod in agreement. "After 30...Rc7 it's just winning [for Black]...it's pretty bad technique not to win this [endgame]."
Anand consoled himself with saying "+1 is not such a bad score," but he knew he had missed a big chance to consolidate his position in the tournament.>
|Sep-17-07|| ||Ezzy: <such a missed win doesnt really bother big players> In the interview, Anand looks extremely bothered and disappointed, although he kept his composure and doesn't admit it.|
|Sep-17-07|| ||Ulhumbrus: Marin makes the following comment <56...Re8?! Slowing down the rhythm. Black would have obtained a practically decisive attack with 56...Rd2 for instance 57.Rcxc3 Rhh2 Threatening mate in two and practically forcing the next move. 58.gxh6 Be8! when the king cannot survive the combined attack of all Black's pieces. Anand's failure to win this game might have been caused by the fact that he expected to achieve his goal by purely technical means, not by a sharp attack. If this is true, Morozevich' merit consists of having faced his mighty opponent with such a dificult psychological task.> This comment suggests that correct technique consists sometimes of abandoning technique.|
|Sep-17-07|| ||Peligroso Patzer: Thank you, <Ezzy>, for your analysis, and <Ulhumbrus>, for posting GM Marin's comment. Both of these annotations focus on Anand's error at move 56, but neither comments on his previous move (55. ...xh5). It seems to me that 55. ... hxg5 would have been a far stronger move, and that this was the point at which Anand began to lose the thread of the game and to let slip the win.|
|Sep-17-07|| ||notyetagm: <you vs yourself: <such a missed win doesnt really bother big players>
In a field like this, getting wins is incredibly tough. So any missed win will be a big disappointment.>|
Yes, if Anand ends up 1/2-point behind Kramnik at the end, or tied and loses tiebreaks, he will point the finger at this should-have-been-a-win.
|Sep-17-07|| ||you vs yourself: <notyetagm> In a long tournament like this, you can't expect everything to go your way. There will be bumps and this is one of them. Eventhough draw with black against a super GM is good, this game will feel like a loss to him. The most important thing is how Anand reacts to this miss. |
Who knows? This game might actually motivate him to try even harder in the remaining games. In a tournament this tough, if your preparation is average and you still have +2 after 4 rounds, you might become cocky and/or complacent. Now Anand has to be alert and motivated for the rest of his games.
|Sep-17-07|| ||you vs yourself: BTW, if he ends up 1/2 point short in the end, it won't be because of this game. It'll be because of his play in the remaining games. Right now, destiny is still in his hands.|
|Sep-17-07|| ||Resignation Trap: Moro and Vishy in photo at the start of the game: http://www.chesspro.ru/_images/mate... .|
|Sep-18-07|| ||pinakin8: I am being yold by my fritz that Anand had a winning chance as late as till move 60;
Can anyone with a better chess engine confirm the soundness of 60...Rg8|
|Nov-23-07|| ||notyetagm: Topalov(!) is the guest commentator on this game in the newest edition of New In Chess Magazine 2007/7: http://www.newinchess.com/Magazine/....|
|Nov-23-07|| ||SickedChess: <notyetagm> not this game, is Kramnik-Anand, by Topalov|
|Jan-02-12|| ||Penguincw: Opposing bishops and rooks don't seem to go well together.|
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