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|Sep-19-07|| ||Marmot PFL: Gelfand made that look simple, even if it wasn't|
|Sep-19-07|| ||Wolfgang01: I prefere samba rook!!|
|Sep-19-07|| ||Resignation Trap: The two oldest players are now in the lead. Experience really does count!|
|Sep-19-07|| ||Eyal: Gelfand goes to the top with +2, and Moro to the cellar with -2.|
|Sep-19-07|| ||radu stancu: And that's done. We now have two leaders. Too bad about Moro, I really expected better of him, but Gelfand is a nice surprise. Good bye people, see you tomorrow for another round.|
|Sep-19-07|| ||botvinnik64: Cha-Cha Castle? Tango Tower?|
|Sep-19-07|| ||you vs yourself: Note that 50..Nxh4 doesn't work because 51.d6 Nf5 52.Rxf5 Kxf5 52.d7|
|Sep-19-07|| ||chancho: The Kramnik Gelfand game should be a doozy.|
|Sep-19-07|| ||technical draw: The dance looks more like an Irish Jig.|
|Sep-19-07|| ||chessamateur: <ajile>
I didnt meant to call you out and I apologize if I
offended you, but it's just was a bit much.
I appreciate that your trying to provide a
service for us. But what it does frequently is a.
take some of the drama out of the game b. does not
help any of us improve c. leave long lines of
analysis that almost noone can follow.
If someone ones to test a certain idea or
something then that's fine but having someone post +x.xx (whatever)
with or without a long line of analysis every few moves gets old after awhile.
|Sep-19-07|| ||dx9293: Congratulations, Boris Gelfand! Everyone doubted him, but now he is tied for 1st with Anand!|
I never thought he would do this well, but I knew he wouldn't finish last because he is just too solid and experienced.
I don't think it will happen, but would he not be the most unlikely World Champion ever if he somehow won it all?
|Sep-19-07|| ||Marmot PFL: At move 18 the position looks almost even - white has a bit more space and better centralized but black doesn't seem to have any problems. Then out of nowhere comes this crazy 19...Rxe3? How does Moro think he can get away with moves like that? At no time does he even have enough compensation to get good drawing chances, let alone a win. Gelfand basically gets a free point unless someone can show me different.|
|Sep-19-07|| ||Marmot PFL: I can see what Moro wanted to avoid, which was 19...Kb8 20.Bxc5 bc5 21.d6 which is unpleasant but not really fatal. He should have probably thought more before 0-0-0, or maybe d6 instead of Re8.|
|Sep-19-07|| ||Eyal: <Marmot PFL: I can see what Moro wanted to avoid, which was 19...Kb8 20.Bxc5 bc5 21.d6> (c6 22.e3); or 19...a6 20.Bxc5 axb5 (20...bxc5 21.Na7+ Kb8 22.d6 c6 23.Nxc6+) 21.Be3 Re5 22.Rfc1 Bxd5 23.Bxd5 Rxd5 24.Bxb6 Be5 25.e4 Rd2 26.Rxb5 - both lines look rather bad for Black.|
|Sep-19-07|| ||Marmot PFL: <Eyal> That's bad too. maybe he just missed something really dumb, like 23...g6 and Rxe3, forgetting Bf6 would be hanging, who knows? The press conference should be interesting.|
|Sep-19-07|| ||Akavall: <The press conference should be interesting.>|
Yeah, I wonder what Morozevich was thinking when he played 19. Rxe3.
|Sep-20-07|| ||keres777: <botvinnik64>: How about "Don't judge a Rook by it's cover!" Lol.|
|Sep-20-07|| ||Astardis: Unfortuantely, I can't give any source but I remember how, when FIDE started their pathetic WC-tournaments about 10 years ago, Kasparov commented on it. He went something like "What if, for example, Boris Gelfand wins? He's a strong player, but nobody would seriously consider him the WC."|
|Sep-20-07|| ||Maroczy: Morozevich is overrated.|
|Sep-20-07|| ||percyblakeney: <Then out of nowhere comes this crazy 19...Rxe3? How does Moro think he can get away with moves like that?>|
<I wonder what Morozevich was thinking when he played 19. Rxe3.>
I thought it looked strange, but Deviatkin at Chesspro.ru gave it an exclamation mark:
|Sep-20-07|| ||Ulhumbrus: It is possible that there was something which Morozevich saw too late.|
|Sep-20-07|| ||arnaud1959: The idea of exchange sac on e3 (e6) is not new. Black brings then the other rook on the e file to put some pressure. Here, there is an additional idea: bringing the N on e4 and winning the d5 pawn. All these are good and would have worked against any gm, but Gelfand is a top level gm, who defends well. In this cramped position he found the plan to put his pieces back into the battle progressively.|
On the other hand, before the sacrifice, I didn't understand 18.Rb1. It is a mysterious move and reminds me Karpov.
So Gelfand is sharing the 1st place now. Personally I think that so far he has been lucky because he played the kind of games he likes and he is not the type of player to feel comfortable in any position. So let's wait and see.
|Sep-20-07|| ||Eyal: <arnaud1959: On the other hand, before the sacrifice, I didn't understand 18.Rb1. It is a mysterious move> It seems to be related to the Nb5 idea - especially in lines where a6 is played, and then the rook is important on the b file in cases of either Bxc5-axb5 or Bxc5-bxc5, where the file is opened (like the lines I mentioned in my previous post).|
|Sep-20-07|| ||DiscerningKing: Excellent... Rook+Pawns vs Knight+pawns Technique from GM Gelfand...|
|Sep-21-07|| ||tal lover: <arnaud1959> Moro sacrifice the exchange because the rook on b1, put the position on your computer and try to play other thing than sacrifice the exchange. Rb1 is a very good and deep move by Gelfand|
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