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|Dec-10-07|| ||zb2cr: <johnlspouge> wrote:|
"'Rubberband' certainly makes the tactic hard to forget. It is a useful name."
|Dec-10-07|| ||awfulhangover: Black must have felt he was an idiot after 12. Bxe4.
And correctly so :-)|
|Dec-10-07|| ||johnlspouge: <JLDATE: There should be a name for positions where two pieces are independently threatened but neutralize the threart thru mutual support. I see it most often with queen-rook combinations. I propose:"Mamelles".>|
You talk too much to anatomists in your spare time. "Mamelles" reminds me more of the "mammillary bodies" in the brain than of queens and rooks (not of rooks, at least :)
|Dec-10-07|| ||DukeAlba: Yay..... That was easy. I love Monday's Puzzle.|
|Dec-10-07|| ||zenpharaohs: " Cibator: Why bother taking the queen?
(12)...dxe4;(13)Qxe4+,Ne5;(14)Qxe5+ and mate soon follows. Or have I overlooked something REALLY obvious?"
12 ... Qxc2
is what black will play.
12 ... dxe4??
is as bad as
11 ... Qxc3??
was in the first place.
|Dec-10-07|| ||kevin86: This was a case of black reflexively taking the pawn as the queen is defended. White removes the guard and gains a piece-black would like to take back his piece and exchange the queens-but he can't do both at the same time. After QxQ,the endangered bishop rescues himself by recapture. Retaking the bishop leaves the queen hanging.|
|Dec-10-07|| ||mworld: darn, i didn't even get a chance to sip my coffee by the time I figured this one out : /|
|Dec-10-07|| ||Sibahi: darn .. no queen sac.
Took me some time :(
|Dec-10-07|| ||YouRang: Pretty obvious, yes, except that it wasn't a queen-sac. :-)|
Still, it's a good puzzle since it demonstrates a tactical error that is easy to make if you play too quickly. With just a casual glance, it appears that the black had everything covered (his Q and N were both attacked, but they were also both defended). But of course, such 2-ply analysis is way too shallow.
|Dec-10-07|| ||JG27Pyth: <Why bother taking the queen?
(12)...dxe4;(13)Qxe4+,Ne5;(14)Qxe5+ and mate soon follows. Or have I overlooked something REALLY obvious?">|
I think you get this:
12. dxe4 13. Qxe4 Ne5 14. Qxe5+ Be6 -- there's no quick mate that I see, and although white is up a full N in this line, better to win a Q for N IMO.
|Dec-10-07|| ||InspiredByMorphy: <tldr3> <this has to be the easiest puzzle i've ever seen on chessgames.com>
I agree. I suppose its fun to have an easier than Monday puzzle every once in a while though.|
|Dec-10-07|| ||mynameisrandy: Good lord.
That was the easiest puzzle ever.
|Dec-10-07|| ||whiteshark: I didn't calculate much further than 3 ply. That's my range. :)|
|Dec-10-07|| ||patzer2: Nine-year-old future GM Cheparinov takes advantage of his opponent's 11...Qxc3?? with the simple defensive move 12. Bxe4 to deflect and remove the guard of the Black Knight while leaving the Black Queen embarassed and exposed (i.e. enprise).|
In the Opening, Black might prefer 7...Nxd5 as in the Blitz game Kasimdzhanov vs Bacrot, 2007
or the more serious encourter Zhao Jun vs Fressinet, 2006.
Instead of 9...Bb4, which appears to weaken the Black Kingside castling position, also worth considering is 9...f5 as in T Harestad vs T Romsdal, 2001 or 9...Nxg5 as in M Talib vs M Ayyad, 2006.
|Dec-10-07|| ||arnaud1959: I'm sure LL was worried about something else than the game or he was impresed by his opponent. I mean, even if you don't see that you lose a pièce you can see 12.♗xe4 dxe4 13.♕xe4+.|
|Dec-10-07|| ||Rhinocerous Ranger: That was so easy that even I got it!!!|
|Dec-10-07|| ||alphee: Easy, once I stopped targetting the king.|
|Dec-10-07|| ||Steve Case: I realized that when White snatches the Knight, he wins a piece since the retake at E4 leads to mate. So Black is forced to trade Queens with a Knight down or resign.|
|Dec-10-07|| ||Cactus: I spent a minute and a half, only to look at the page, and looked at this page, only to discover it was the obvious bishop move. I try too hard!|
|Dec-10-07|| ||aazqua: Silly.|
|Dec-10-07|| ||newton296: i looked at this for at least an hour and never came up with Bxe4 ! genius ! |
I never would have found it .
|Dec-11-07|| ||Cibator: Thanks JG27Pyth: ..... and the moral of that is: don't try to analyse direct from the diagram in the early hours of the morning!!|
|Mar-02-09|| ||tal60: easy :)|
|Jun-25-09|| ||WhiteRook48: 11...Qxc3?? allows a simple removing the guard trick|
|Dec-15-11|| ||master of defence: With 10... Nxc3 instead of 10... Bxc3 black wins a pawn and stays better.|
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