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Ni Hua vs Sergei Tiviakov
"The Big Squeeze" (game of the day Jan-03-08)
Torneo di Capodanno (2008)  ·  Scandinavian Defense: Gubinsky-Melts Defense (B01)  ·  1-0
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Jan-03-08  Morphyisgod: 8. NxF7, what do you guys think?
Jan-03-08  nimzo knight: 8. Nxf7 will give up very active bishop and knight for a cornered rook and a pawn (maybe 2). Probably not advisable.
Jan-03-08  apexin: After Nxf7 it doesnt look like white has enought compensation.
Jan-03-08  FookiMonster: is 3...Qd6 a bad line in the Scandinavian? Tiviakov seems to favor it. for a long time i was thinking of learning & playing 3...Qd6 in the Scandinavian but got discouraged. does it offer winning chances at all?
Jan-03-08
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  kevin86: I have never seen the third move,Qd6,before. I don't see it as good because it seems that the queen and knight are subject to forks later and one must soon be moved again.

In the end,the black pawn on f7 is indefensable and the queen and rook are squeezed on the seventh row and unable to assist. Of course if 41...f6,then 42 Re8#. The squeeze does fit the game,but not the name.

A new year game,just one day old. Happy 2008!

Jan-03-08
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  kevin86: If 40 Qf6 Ke8! prevents the mate.
Jan-03-08  Riverbeast: The Big Wax
Jan-03-08
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  acirce: <is 3...Qd6 a bad line in the Scandinavian?>

Well, Tiviakov does believe in it. Then again, that's not the only odd thing he believes in.

Jan-03-08
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  kevin86: As to the above post,I stand corrected. 3...Qd6 is the second most popular move on the database in this opening.(almost 500 times). Also,it seems to have the best result of ANY third move in the position.
Jan-03-08  zb2cr: Trying answer potential patzer's point of view questions--Black did not play 38. ... fxg6 because of 39. Rxg6! leaving Black with 2 ways of getting mated:

1. 39. ... Kh8; 40. Qf8+, Kh7; 41. Qg8#.

2. 39. ... Kh7; 40. Rg3+, Kh8; 41. Qf8+, Kh7; 42. Qg8#.

Jan-03-08  Bobsterman3000: <Knights of Ni!> would have been a better pun.

Jan-03-08  Bobsterman3000: Tiviakov spent half his energy trying to exchange dark-squared bishops, which don't even affect the final mating sequence...
Jan-03-08  Bobsterman3000: Qd6 is a very common line in the Scandinavian, to my knowledge. It's as good as any other line for black in the Scandinavian, for whatever that's worth...
Jan-03-08  A.G. Argent: UdayanOwen, <To be utterly confusing yet still very funny is a good art to master>, Dude, while I agree with the funny part, to say it's utterly confusing is a bit understated, don't you think. Could be it's just what happens to some chess people after too much coffee, what with the fertile, imaginative minds and all but there's also a dash of clinical insanity tossed into that there particular recipe/post. No offense whatsoever, Big Jack, I like it. Don't ever change.
Jan-03-08  drpoundsign: The art of the sacrifice is well demonstrated here.

As a beginner I think I play a sort of semi-Scandinavian by accident when my opening falls apart. lol

Jan-03-08  UdayanOwen: <A.G. Argent: UdayanOwen, <To be utterly confusing yet still very funny is a good art to master>, Dude, while I agree with the funny part, to say it's utterly confusing is a bit understated, don't you think. Could be it's just what happens to some chess people after too much coffee, what with the fertile, imaginative minds and all but there's also a dash of clinical insanity tossed into that there particular recipe/post. No offense whatsoever, Big Jack, I like it. Don't ever change.>

Yes, jackmandoo's post was a gem. When I said confusing, I meant confusing for the reader... I'd be interested to see him decipher it for us, because I imagine his metaphors can be unravelled from that wild mind to reveal an actual sensible explanation for his feelings about the game!!

Keep it up Jack

Jan-03-08  be3292: <jackmandoo> if you mean "wooly," I agree with everything you said.
Jan-29-08  aazqua: What's wrong with 9 bc4? I don't see how that isn't game over for black.
Jan-29-08
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  Phony Benoni: <aazqua: What's wrong with 9.Bc4? I don't see how that isn't game over for black.>

Not exactly. Black can actually force the win of a piece after 9.Bc4 Qe4+ 10.Be3 Nxe5 11.dxe5 Qxc4.

White can make it interesting by offering the other bishop with 10.Qe2 Qxf4 11.Nxf7 Rg8 12.Nd6+ Qxd6 13.Bxg8, with rook and pawn for two pieces. But if Black finds that line too speculative, he can just play 10...Qxe2+ 11.Kxe2 Nxe5 or 11...e6.

Mar-02-08  you vs yourself: <UdayanOwen: <jackmandoo:> I have no idea what you are trying to say in your last post but the sheer, outrageous creativity makes it very entertaining nonetheless.>

So the cg.com legend is making a comeback? Very nice!

Mar-02-08  Atking: Where is the opening refutation that I heard from another site? Nothing wrong for Black after simple exchanges 29...Nxd5 30.BxNd5 exBd5 31.Rxd5 Raa8 and 32...Qc6. Tiviakov tried to keep the position complex and lost.
May-18-08  engineerX: <UdayanOwen: Sure 40.Qf6 wins but unless I've missed something, it is nowhere near as good as the game continuation.> You are missing 40.Qf6 Ke8 41.Rg8+ Bf8 42.Bb4 with a forced mate, e.g. 42...Rd6 43.Qxe5+ Re7 44.Rxf8+ Kd7 45.Bf5+ or 42...Qd6 43.Qxe5+ Kd8 44.Rxf8+
May-28-08  Whitehat1963: Friday puzzle after 35...Ra6.
Jan-04-09  larsen959: nobody wrote: 41..Bxa3(forced) 42.d6+!! Kxd6(forced) 43.Bxe5+ and white wins the Queen!
Mar-10-09  blacksburg: over a year later, and as far as i know, 3...Qd6 is still doing OK. or at least i still play it sometimes, but i'm a scrub :(
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