| Jan-25-08 |
| jovack: Why are both sides so bad... There have been plenty of excellent players from past ages.
They went after material as if the objective of the game were to score points. Let's say the game somehow reached the 8th move. White could have easily taken the lead with a simple trade of queens (8. Qg5+). But no, white needs to try and set up a pointless trap to win the rook by taking the pawn. This blunder surrendered a critical tempo allowing black to infiltrate white's camp. The best part of this, is he could have won the rook anyways after removing black's queen.
8. ... Qxg5
9. Bxg5 Be7 <better than knight, black must open up
10. Bb3 (could retreat anywher, I like b3) Bxg5
11. Nf7+, wins rook
the game is still unclear as black will most likely gain the 2minor piece vs 1 rook+pawn advantage
but if he wanted the rook that badly, that was how to do it. Regardless, both players are epic fail. |
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| Jan-25-08 |
| Tomlinsky: The game may not have even involved two players. A lot of Greco scores are studies that he conducted over 400 years ago. Study material was a bit thin on the ground back then not to mention the printing press was only 150 years old at the time. |
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| Jan-26-08 |
| wolfmaster: Black's attack was bad and White's attack was worse. |
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Feb-12-08
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| chasmichael: Surely after NxR.... Nh6 traps the Knight? I am playing this variation against an 18 yr old whippersnapper who claims to have a speed chess rating of over 2400; I am a tired nearly 64 year old teacher with a drooping rating of just under 1700, but I intend to beat this lad playing Bxg6 as White (the colour of my hair!) |
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| Feb-12-08 |
| EdwardChisam: This line is a hair-raising line for both sides that is sometimes played even today. Usually black does not play 9.... Qxc1, but rather 9...c6. White could have forced a draw with 10. Nf7+ Ke8 11. Nd6+ Kd8 12. Nf7+, etc. |
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| Feb-12-08 |
| sigi: Some time ago I looked at this line and came to the conclusion that 9...c6? loses (e.g. 10.Nc3 Kc7 11.Bf4 Qxa1 12.Nxd7!  ) and 9...Qxc1! leads to unclear positions. The Bc1 is more important for White's attack than the Ra1. |
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| Feb-12-08 |
| EdwardChisam: I know that the overall verdict of the line is that white gets a clear advantage, bordering on winning, whether you try 9... c6 or 9.... Qxc1. However, this is a good gamble for OTB as black if you really know the lines, who is going to figure this all out if they don't know it? |
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| Mar-02-08 |
| TommyC: Greco was not born in 1590. This game does not sparkle in his style particularly, either. Nor is it in the chesslive.de database. Is it mistakenly affiliated? |
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Aug-10-08
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| just a kid: Two attacks lead to White's demise. |
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| Jan-03-09 |
| WhiteRook48: this game was played before Greco was born! 10 years before in fact. How'd this get into the database? |
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