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Vladimir Kramnik vs Loek Van Wely
Corus (2008)  ·  Slav Defense: Modern Line (D11)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Jan-12-08
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  jessicafischerqueen: adams gelfand:

Petrov main line

Jan-12-08
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  whiteshark: time comparison:
http://e4e6.altervista.org/toto/
Jan-12-08
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  lostemperor: Kramnik is playing his second. There will be no studied novelties played by both but Kramnik will definitely try to win this game and the tournament. My guess: Kramnik will convert a slight plus into a win on move 48:).
Jan-12-08
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  Strongest Force: King Loek wont be fired if he beats his boss today will he? :)
Jan-12-08
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  chessgames.com: We were displaying the wrong moves. We apologize for the error.
Jan-12-08  percyblakeney: It was Radjabov-Anand that was shown, changed to the right game now.
Jan-12-08
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  jessicafischerqueen: er... these are not the moves from <Kramnik- Van Wely>...
Jan-12-08
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  jessicafischerqueen: I'm always late!!
Jan-12-08
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  Sneaky: I was always taught that when you play the Queen's Gambit, Qb3 is the knee-jerk reaction to any attempt of Black to develop his QB. But to play it on move 4? I'm not familiar with this line.
Jan-12-08
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  Eyal: Van Wely's 6...g5 appears to be a novelty in this line; in his recent game with Gelfand he played 6...Nbd7: Gelfand vs Van Wely, 2007.
Jan-12-08
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  jessicafischerqueen: HI CAPIH
Jan-12-08
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  suenteus po 147: <Sneaky: I'm not familiar with this line.> I think that's the point. Kramnik has a big match coming up, and playing anything theoretical against a former second would just be giving too much away. I was actually expecting Kramnik to play 1.e4, personally.
Jan-12-08  malthrope: <Eyal: Van Wely's 6...g5 appears to be a novelty in this line; in his recent game with Gelfand he played 6...Nbd7:>

I just knew it... King Loek has been holding back opening prep on Vlad! :^)

Jan-12-08  rgr459: <Sneaky> How's this for gambling: I've got 200 chessbucks on spider to win the whole thing!
Jan-12-08
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  Eyal: Hey Jess, I see you're back at the 12th from your time travel.
Jan-12-08
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  jessicafischerqueen: yES and the Topalov game looks very interesting. It looks to me like he could have won a pawn there but he's not taking it--

I will have to look at it with my Engine later to find out why.

Jan-12-08
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  Sneaky: <rgr459> That IS gutsy! I only got 100 on Adams :-)

I find this maneuver ...g5 Bg3 Ne4 interesting. I always believed that it was the hallmark of patzers to play that way, since I see this plan crop up so often playing against my peers. I always thought the fallacy was that Nxg3 isn't really a threat, as Black moves a knight too many times to take a bad bishop. And to make matters worse, black opens up White's h-file in the process. I'm curious to see how Kramnik can punish him for this, if at all.

Jan-12-08  square dance: i dont think taking on d4 would win a pawn in the aronian-topalov game. if 8...Nxd4 9.Nxd4 Bxd4 10.Bxc7 etc, or 9...Qxd4 10.Bxc7.
Jan-12-08  square dance: btw, good morning, jess. :-)
Jan-12-08  rgr459: I agree, I am never afraid to make that trade in Kramnik's position-- the open h-file often proves to be a strong asset, and the doubled g-pawns are difficult to attack and are even strong in defense if Volodya castles K-side.
Jan-12-08
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  Eyal: <square dance: i dont think taking on d4 would win a pawn in the aronian-topalov game. if 8...Nxd4 9.Nxd4 Bxd4 10.Bxc7 etc> That would actually lose to 10...Bxc3+; but 10.Nb5 e5 11.Bh6 seems strong.
Jan-12-08
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  jessicafischerqueen: Bxc7 I didn't see that THANKS <square dance>.

I bet on Toppy to win this game.

Jan-12-08
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  ketchuplover: <jessicafischerqueen> Aronian would've won back the pawn by Bxc7
Jan-12-08
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  jessicafischerqueen: oh and thanks CPPIN for even more analysis--

I'm going in now to look

Jan-12-08
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  jessicafischerqueen: Hi Ketchup Plover!!

You are the only analyzing <condiment bird> I know.

Good morning <square dance> even though it's evening here...

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