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Viswanathan Anand vs Levon Aronian
Morelia-Linares 2008  ·  Spanish Game: Marshall Attack. Modern Variation (C89)  ·  0-1


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Feb-19-08
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  hedgeh0g: It allowed his pieces greater mobility (it allowed the queen to attack the rook, for instance).
Feb-19-08
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  keypusher: <kellmano: Seriously, why does anyone play the marshall as white?>

Well, I don't -- wouldn't dream of it. But it's tough for White to give up, because to avoid the Marshall, White has to forego a lot of the old main lines that begin with 8. c3 -- (Chigorin, Smyslov, Breyer, etc.) the lines that put the <torture> in <the Spanish torture>. White just doesn't get as good a position with the Anti-Marshalls as he did in these old lines. The Marshall is strong not just in its own right but in the effect it has on White's play against the Ruy Lopez as a whole.

Feb-20-08   Everett: <keypusher>

Does anyone nowadays play 8.a4 as Kasparov used to?

Feb-20-08   D.Observer: Hmm, Aronian asks Anand, "Lose your queen or checkmate?"
Feb-21-08
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  keypusher: <Everett> I am the last person to ask what the super-GMs are playing nowadays. But browsing through Opening Explorer, I found examples of 8. a4 from Anand, Carlsen, Ivanchuk, etc. Here's a nice game from the world championship.

Anand vs Grischuk, 2007

Feb-22-08   MarkusKann: The Anand's queen is not captured because Aronian can checkmate, let's see : Of course if 35.Qxf5, Qh2++, but if 35.Rg1,Be4+ if 36.Qxe4,Qh2++ or 36...Qh3++ if 36.Qg2 or Rg2 then Qh2++, well is all, goodbye
Feb-22-08   newton296: <hitman;I believe the time is not that far when computers will take the place of humans in chess tournaments.>

computers can out play even the best player now. but do you really care if rybka is better then fritz?

talk about boring !!

Its all about who is the best player and always will be.

Feb-22-08   erniecohen: Ok, I'm missing something... why does everyone say that Anand is lost after move 27? Where is the win for Black after 29. gxf4?
Mar-08-08
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  patzer2: The obstruction move 30...Re3!! makes for an impressive finish to Black's well calculated Marshall attack.
Apr-07-08
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  The Chess Express: <newton296> Interesting point. I wonder what will happen to chess if the computers solve it one day like they have checkers.
Apr-18-08
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  sallom89: still like this awesome game!
Apr-26-08
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  PinnedPiece: <erniecohen: Ok, I'm missing something... why does everyone say that Anand is lost after move 27? Where is the win for Black after 29. gxf4?> Not that I know much, but I would think after 29 ..Bxf4, the game could continue on pretty much as it did. With one difference, even weaker defense. Anyway, apparently Anand did not want 30 Rxd2 because if Qxd2 then black Q cannot be denied F3 and mate.

I think 30 ..? would make a good puzzle because it would show kibitzers that it isn't easy to find 30 ..Re3, a small move with big impact. I'm sure its at least Wednesday, the day my analysis skills start fading out.....

Jul-21-08
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  percyblakeney: Anand on the game, from NIC 3/2008: <I still find it quite embarrassing that I missed this rook e3 completely [---] I thought I must look like some 2100 player. Just ridiculous>.
Sep-01-08   Davolni: Such a nice game, worth going over and over...

;)

Sep-01-08   chessarmenia: After extensive analysis, both with the aid of computers and raw human intellect, I believe I have found the true blunder by Anand in this game: ...8.c3??
Sep-28-08
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  blazerdoodle: < - computers can out play even the best player now. but do you really care if rybka is better then fritz?>

Admittedly, computers have taken a bit of the mystery out of the game. To put a human up against a Ferrari would be equally absurd in any race. A model T Ford might do it! Or a horse. Horses race horses, and Ferrari's race Ferrari's (or other similar vehicles ), and it doesn't bother world class runners that much. It reminds me of that commercial where the runner, jockey on horse, and a race car take off on a dirt track. But maybe one day they'll decide that the machines have us ( even though we invented them ) - Eventually, Capa's game ( or one like it ), might prevail, and although those games are interesting, it will be a sad day if at the world championship level no true champion can be determined. Go Anand! Oops, I meant Go Kramnik! I love both of these guys. Aronian is a cool player too.

Oct-06-08   yalie: watching this game I cannot believe Aronian plays 24..f5 after a long thought - so the obvious 25.Bg5 has been considered. I just cannot understand why Anand played it so quickly instead of Qb3. This is simultaneously Anand's big weakness & big strength - to play impulsively. Here it was a weakness. It is not even like Aronian was in a time crunch was it?
Oct-25-08   transhuman7: Very nice finish by Aronian.
Nov-17-08   dramas79: Good play by the master of the Marshall gambit!
Nov-17-08
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  Bishoprick: Please! 8.a4 was played with success for a long time before Kasparov. It is one of the standard Anti-Marshall lines.
Dec-14-08
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  positionalgenius: awesome game.
Dec-14-08   veerar: 25.Bg5,and the subsequent B moves take it away from defence.It also opens the K file for Black.A fine game by Aronian.
Sep-06-09
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  capatal: Beautiful game by Aronian! Not often does WC Anand lose with White.
Sep-07-09
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  Open Defence: just when I thought 13.g3 maybe the answer to the Marshall
Oct-02-09
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  Open Defence: 15...Ra7.. nice strategy from Aronian
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