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Vladimir Kramnik vs Shakhriyar Mamedyarov
"When the Shak Bites" (game of the day Apr-02-08)
Amber Tournament (Rapid) (2008)  ·  Budapest Defense: General (A52)  ·  0-1
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Apr-02-08  Samagonka: <WannaBe> When the Shark bites, with its pretty teeth dear, scarlett billows starts to spread!!

I enjoyed this piece of poetry more than the game of the day. Is there a continuation?

Apr-02-08  Andre Conde: Wow! What a game! Totally crazy, for my begginer point of view.
Apr-02-08  utixn: It was GOTD at ICC: http://webcast.chessclub.com/Amber0...

and Samagonka it's a song and poetry more at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mack_t...

Apr-02-08  arnaud1959: I like the final position with the black pawn rectangle b3-c3-c7-b7.
Apr-02-08  TheaN: Not that they matter (40.Rxd2? cxd2+ 41.Kxd2 b2 42.Kc2 h5 0-1), but it looks funny.
Apr-02-08  paul1959: I do not like 19.Ka1 . 19 Be2 (or even Bc2) would prevent tricks on d3. White can then continue preparing for g4. Because of the Bc3 White has a dangerous attack coming.
Apr-02-08  nasher: What was the time control for this game ? (I am not sure what "Rapid" means.)
Apr-02-08  gaatab: 31:f5!? looks ok...
Apr-02-08  xrt999: manic, in your line I dont think Bb4 is check, since white played 4.Nc3.

I think the main line is 4...Nf3 5.Bc5 e3; white has immmediate problems with f2 and is forced to defend right from the start. After black recaptures on e5, however, the game is about even and I dont think there is any real advantage to be had for black.

On the other hand, black Chessmaster plays this opening almost exclusively in the Kings Indian, which is quite annoying. This makes me infer there must be some nuance of advantage for black, or else CM would play a more historied KI such as 4...d6

Apr-02-08  Mulyahnto: time control: 25 min/10 sec increments
Apr-02-08
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  kevin86: What a finish! A knight and two pawns can conquer a rook even if the enemy king is present! However,it's also mandatory that the winning side have a passed pawn in reserve:

After 40 Rd2 cxd2+ 41 Kxd2 h5 and either the b or h pawns will queen.

Apr-02-08  chessya11: <saragonka> Fancy gloves though, has MacHeath dear, so there's never, a trace of red.
Apr-02-08
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  Jimfromprovidence: I agree that 21 Bxg7 was premature (or a bad experiment).

White simply overlooked that after 22 g4 black's knight can inhabit the g6 square.

Now, if white had retreated his rook to d2 or d1 then, if black continues with 21...Nd5, (instead of the correct Bf7), then white’s bishop sacrifice can proceed and be successful.

Apr-02-08  DanielBryant: <Rottamo> Actually, in my experience, the Budapest has been a fairly reliable opening in allowing me to draw higher rated opponents. I will admit that the line Manic gives in which Black is forced to play ...f6 and be down a pawn is probably the most testing line that White can try, but your line is so weak that your argument is merely a strawman against this particular opening.
Apr-02-08
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  WannaBe: <Samagonka> Go to youtube and search for 'Mack the Knife', you will find numerous versions, L. Armstrong and B. Darin's are my favourites.
Apr-02-08  Bobsterman3000: I am at work now, but I am wondering about 32. Rgg2

Isn't that better for white, or does it just postpone/hasten the inevitable?

Apr-02-08  mrsaturdaypants: I agree with gaatab. What's wrong with 31. f5?
Apr-02-08  Funicular: My Answer: 31 f5 allows Rg5 and then Ne5.

My analysis: Rg5 is an excellent defense move (against the fork Rxg4) and Ne5 threatens Nd3+, winning the queen. Black shouldn't care about losing the bishop, since white's rook on c3 can't do anything, and (most importantly) white's queen would be en prise after fxg6.

It took me about 3 minutes to see all this, though probably only took 10 seconds to kramnik :$:$:$

Apr-02-08  Atking: <mrsaturdaypants: I agree with gaatab. What's wrong with 31. f5?> 31...Ne5 ~(Nd3+). I think that Kramnik forget that after Bxg7 the black King is no longer in g8 and the battery Bg8~Qf7 (Mate in a2) is now possible. It's easy to not see a combination that your opponent didn't intend too but your own moves make it a reality. Especially in a rapid game. Critics with comp flied in live. Kramnik needed one tempo to make brillant, his combination. But simply 18.h3 with 19.g4 White has better prospect because of his long term advantage Bc3. Therefore, to the credit of Mamedyarov, Black defended it very well.
May-04-08  Whitehat1963: What happens if 31. f5?
Sep-15-08
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  notyetagm: The <BUDAPEST DEFENSE> seems to be a perfect opening for blitz/rapid games if you are a tactical genius at <PIECE PLAY> like Mamedyarov.

In the cg.com database Mamedyarov has essayed it 8 times with no(!) losses.

Mar-11-09
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  hedgeh0g: <What happens if 31. f5?> Probably Rg5.
Sep-11-09  VishyAnandFan: a petrosian-like exchange sacrifice first, then a very dangerous counterattack with a piece sac too, a superb defence by shakhriyar combined with a counter-counterattack, and a sparkling endgame-technique, all in a single game
Mar-23-12
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  hedgeh0g: I'm surprised at how Kramnik chose to play the White side of the Budapest in this game. The main line offers White a space advantage and small plus with little risk, something which I'd imagine Kramnik would relish.
Jan-23-13
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  PawnSac: <nasher: What was the time control for this game ? (I am not sure what "Rapid" means.)>

Generally 15 or 30 minute games. I checked the FIDE handbook for "official" regulations on time controls. The World Rapid Chess Championship time control is 15 / 10 (15 minutes for the game, with 10 seconds added for each move played.

Various chess sites will have 4 general classifications:

BULLET = 1 min
BLITZ = up to 5 min
RAPID = up to 30 min
STANDARD = 30 min up.

but they don't all agree at some of the crossover points. And various tourneys will have different controls, like 15/10 or 25/3 and so forth.

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