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May-12-08
 | | micahtuhy: 5. . . .Straight. . . .Wins. . . .at a major. Vassily Freaking Ivanchuk. |
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May-12-08
 | | JointheArmy: Nice stalemate attempt at the end there. I thought the transmission messed up when he played Qg7+. |
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May-12-08
 | | Whitehat1963: Would have liked to have seen Ivanchuk's face after 43. Qg7+. |
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| May-12-08 | | KarAkter: Whole plan starting after 11.cd5 looks unnatural.I don´t see why not 11.Bg2 e4 12.0-0 Nb6 13.Bd2 (which is played earlier)or something like that.Then 15.d5,19.Bc3,23.Rfd1...it seems that Aronian really plays on Ivanchuk´s short time on clock.And he fails.Congrats to Ivanchuk |
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May-12-08
 | | Wild Bill: One chess master observed that his friend was down a piece in his game. Out of earshot of the TD, he asked his friend, "Did you sacrifice or did you blunder?" "I'll tell you after the game," said the second man. "If I win, it was a sacrifice; if I lose, it was a blunder." Aronian's sacrifices just didn't work. He may have thought he saw something when he played <19.Bc3??>, but it will go down as a blunder. |
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May-12-08
 | | Ezzy: Aronian,Levon (2763) - Ivanchuk,Vassily (2740) [D12]
MTEL Masters 2008 (5), 12.05.2008
1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.e3 Bf5 5.Nc3 e6 6.Nh4 Bg6 7.Nxg6 hxg6 8.a3< Became popular after Topalov played it against Kramnik in Elista World Championship match 2006.> 8...Nbd7 9.g3 Be7 10.b3 <Topalov played 10 f4 against Kramnik.> 10...e5 11.cxd5 Nxd5 12.Nxd5 Qa5+ 13.Nc3 Qxc3+ 14.Bd2 Qb2 15.d5 <New move. A pawn sacrifice which doesn’t seem very promising in any line. Wang Yue has played 15 Bg2.> 15...cxd5 16.Bb5 <To stop the knight coming to the strong c5 square.> 16...a6 17.Bxd7+ Kxd7 18.0–0 e4 <[18...Bxa3?? 19.Rb1 Qa2 20.Bc3 and the queen is trapped] >19.Bc3? <It has been suggested that Aronian made this piece sacrifice in Ivanchuk's time trouble, hoping for Chucky to make inaccurate moves. Not a very wise decision when somebody is on 4/4 and in supreme form.> 19...Qxc3 20.Qxd5+ Ke8 21.Rac1 Qd3 22.Qxb7 Rd8 23.Rfd1 Qxd1+ 24.Rxd1 Rxd1+ 25.Kg2 a5 26.g4 <To stop the black rook coming into play via h5. [26.Qa8+ Rd8 27.Qxa5 Rh5 28.Qc3 Rhd5 29.b4 And black has enough piece power to attack the kings position and also restrain and attack the queenside pawns.> 26...Kf8 <[26...Bxa3 27.Qxe4+ Be7 28.Qa4+ Rd7 29.Qxa5 Bd6 30.f4 Ke7 31.Qg5+ Kf8 and black will be causing serious problems when he gets his rook on h8 into play] >27.Qxe4 g5 28.Qf5 Bd8 29.Qc5+ Kg8 30.Qe5 g6 31.b4 axb4 32.axb4 Kh7 33.b5 Rf8 34.Qc5 Kg8 <Ivanchuk finally achieves his castled position :-) >35.b6 <Speeds up the winning process for Chucky, but this pawn was doomed anyway.> 35...Rb1 36.f4 Rb2+ 37.Kg3 gxf4+ 38.exf4 Bxb6 39.Qc3 Rb1 40.f5 Rg1+ 41.Kh3 Re8 42.Qf6 Bf2 43.Qg7+ Kxg7 44.f6+ Kf8 <44...Kxf6????????????????? 45 g5+ DRAW!!!!!!!!!!!! 0–1> Well, well, well. 5/5 for Ivanchuk!! It’s just like watching Brazil. It was a very imaginative piece sac from Aronian, but you need more imagination than that to outfox a man in the form of his life. I hope he keeps it all together. Good luck Chucky lad. |
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| May-12-08 | | Marmot PFL: I don't even think black was in time trouble when white sacrificed the bishop. He used much of his time from moves 25-30 deciding how to complete development but after that played very quickly. Sometimes Aronian tries to solve every problem with some tactical trick and it backfires. |
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May-12-08
 | | hedgeh0g: The Ivanchuk steamroller squashes yet another as it ploughs off into the distance... |
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May-12-08
 | | minasina: http://www.chessdom.com/mtel-master... This was live commentary with GM Vladimir Dimitrov http://chesspro.ru/chessonline/onli... This was live commentary with IM Maksim Notkin in Russian; “translation” (without functioning board):
http://google.com/translate?u=http%...
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http://online.crestbook.com/sofia08... with GM Sergei Shipov in Russian |
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May-12-08
 | | messachess: I take it that white's 11.cxd5 has in view to target d5 with the (future)fianchetto Bishop. It just seems incredible that Aronian would not see the consequences of the black Q check and then posted on d5. |
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May-12-08
 | | Jimfromprovidence: GM Sergei Shipov had a nice answer for white's 19th move, Qg4+. 
click for larger viewThis is followed by 19...f5 20 Qxg6 Qf6 21 Qxf6 Bxf6, below. 
click for larger viewNo real rationale for 19 Bc3 has surfaced.
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May-12-08
| | Bobsterman3000: Did Aronian really play 43.Qg7+?
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May-12-08
 | | twinlark: Ivanchuk's live rating is now 2776, behind only Anand (2798) and Kramnik (2788), with Topalov snapping at his heels on 2775. |
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May-12-08
| | Whack8888: I dont like 9. g3 for White -- at least, the way it was followed up here. I think it makes more sense if you play 10. f4 like Topalov did in the game mentioned previously by Ezzy, otherwise, it doesnt seem like it quite works. 10. b3 e5 surely is a signal the opening hasnt gone well for White. Maybe 10. Qc2 or 10. Qb3 would work better, though even then I dont see a whole lot of point in the move 9. g3, at least the merits it being played at such an early stage. |
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| May-12-08 | | mindkontrolle: Ivanchuk is on fire, he's going through these GM's like a pig goes through human bone.. |
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May-12-08
 | | notyetagm: Some very nice <TACTICAL PLAY> in this game by Aronian. Position after 12 ...  d8-a5+
click for larger viewIvanchuk (Black) has just played 12 ... d8-a5+ in order to recapture his piece (White had just played 12  c3xd5). <<<Since White is going to lose the White d5-knight now anyway, Aronian (White) decided to give it up in the best possible way:>>> he gets out of <CHECK> using the <DESPERADO> <BLOCKING> of the a5-e1 diagonal with 13 d5-c3!?. Position after 13 d5-c3!?
click for larger viewThe point is that this <DESPARDO> nearly(!) <TRAPS> the Black queen after 13 ... a5xc3+ 14  c1-d2, the Black c3-queen having only the <FLIGHT SQUARE> b2-square since the White d2-bishop takes away the retreat of Her Black Majesty along the a5-e1 diagonal. Position after 13 ... a5xc3+ 14 c1-d2 c3-b2 <only move>
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click for larger viewAronian (White) was -that- close to winning a -whole- piece(!) with his <DESPERADO> 13 d5-c3!?, based on the tactic indirect defense by <TRAPPING>. Regardless, the Black queen is left kinda out of play on b2 as a result of the <DESPERADO> 13 d5-c3!?. This little move sequence shows you just how careful you have to be about <TO WHERE YOU COMMIT YOUR QUEEN(!)>. |
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May-13-08
| | notyetagm: More tricky tactical ideas by Aronian (White).
Position after 42 ... b6-f2!
click for larger viewHere Ivanchuk (Black) has just played 42 ... b6-f2!, forming a <MATING NET> around the White h3-king ( 43 ...  e8-e3#). But the White h3-king is <STALEMATED>!
And Aronian knows what to do when his king is <STALEMATED> and he is losing late in the game: <<<give away all of his pieces/pawns and get his remaining pawns <BLOCKADED>(!)>>>. So Aronian plays the <FORCING SEQUENCE> 43 f6-g7+!  g8xg7 44 f5-f6+, carrying out the aforementioned plan of giving away his pieces and <BLOCKADING> his pawns. Position after 43 f6-g7+! g8xg7 44 f5-f6+
click for larger viewAronian's devilish intentions are the <STALEMATE TRAPS> 44 ... g7xf6?? 45 g4-g5+!= and 44 ... g7-h6?? 45 g4-g5+!=, drawing whether the White g5-pawn is captured or not because it is <BLOCKADED> by the Black g6-pawn if it is not captured! (VAR) Position after 44 ... g7xf6?? 45 g4-g5+!=
click for larger view(VAR) Position after 44 ... g7-h6?? 45 g4-g5+!=
click for larger viewI overlooked the latter <STALEMATING> idea; it was pointed out to me by kibitzers on ICC: <
asiarsi whispers: very kh6 is also draw !
petgra kibitzes: nice try for stalemate
asiarsi whispers: kh6 is also draw !
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May-13-08
| | notyetagm: <CONT'D>
Of course a genius like Ivanchuk is not going to fall for such chepos: he simply played 44 g7-f8!, avoiding Aronian's <STALEMATE TRAPS>, upon which Aronian resigned. Position after 44 ... g7-f8! 0-1
click for larger viewAgainst a supreme tactician like Aronian, there is always danger! Aronian was -this- close to drawing this completely lost position, due to his tactical ability devising a <STALEMATE> trap which nearly worked. |
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May-13-08
 | | ahmadov: <JointheArmy: Nice stalemate attempt at the end there. I thought the transmission messed up when he played Qg7+.> Yes, but you cannot confuse elite players with such tricks... |
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May-13-08
| | notyetagm: <ahmadov: <JointheArmy: Nice stalemate attempt at the end there. I thought the transmission messed up when he played Qg7+.> Yes, but you cannot confuse elite players with such tricks...> You'd be surprised what players miss in time trouble. Remember Ivanchuk missing that simple <ROOK FORK> against Aronian at Linares to lose a won position? |
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May-13-08
| | ahmadov: <notyetagm> Don't forget that this is Chucky's tournament, so no blunder this time :-) |
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May-13-08
| | ahmadov: <notyetagm> In a more serious note, I agree with you. I even have a game collection of GM blunders. However, when a player sacrifices a Queen, you immediately suspect that he/she has some tricks behind that, which helps you not to get into the trap. Don't you think so? |
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May-13-08
| | notyetagm: <ahmadov: ... However, when a player sacrifices a Queen, you immediately suspect that he/she has some tricks behind that, which helps you not to get into the trap. Don't you think so?> Oh, I agree. When Chucky saw 43 f6-g7+!, he must have seen in big neon letters the words <STALEMATE> <TRAP> flashing in his mind. |
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May-13-08
| | ahmadov: <notyetagm> It would be more beautiful if stalemate was forced after the Queen sacrifice, I am delighted to see Chucky's winning streak in the tournament though... |
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| May-13-08 | | shintaro go: Aronian's "stalemate trap" is a cheap and desperate attempt and a mockery of Ivanchuk's intelligence. Just offer the handshake rather than result to ridiculous "stalemate traps." |
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