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Veselin Topalov vs Ivan Cheparinov
M-Tel Masters (2008), Sofia BUL, rd 8, May-16
Gruenfeld Defense: Exchange Variation (D85)  ·  1-0
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May-16-08  Dr. Funkenstein: It's typical of people to immediately suggest collusion. May I suggest that Topalov is the stronger player posessing the white pieces and a ferocious attacking instinct that is very dangerous in sharp positions. I think Cheparinov just got outplayed which is why he is Topalov's second and not the other way around.
May-16-08
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  whiteshark: <23...bxa6?> was an invitation for the ♖ to play havoc on the 7th rank.
May-16-08  dumbgai: I'd like to see Topalov and Cheparinov play in a quadruple round-robin like they had back in Fischer's day. How would a 4-0 score look then?
May-16-08  Hesam7: <<Dr. Funkenstein>: It's typical of people to immediately suggest collusion. May I suggest that Topalov is the stronger player posessing the white pieces and a ferocious attacking instinct that is very dangerous in sharp positions.>

It is not typical, people just apply Danailov's standards to his players.

May-16-08  dx9293: I realize it's unfair, but you do have to wonder...

I've seen arguments that nobody suggests collusion when, say, Radjabov and Mamedyarov are in the same tournament, but this case is different because Cheparinov is not only Topalov's second, but Danailov makes us wonder.

Of course Topalov can certainly win two legitimate games against Cheparinov in a tournament, but you never know. If there really is collusion, I feel sorry for both Topalov and Cheparinov.

May-16-08
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  tamar: This game reminds me so much of Euwe vs Najdorf, 1953

Different opening, but same pawn on d6 splitting the board, same knight offered on g5, and absolute dominance on d5.

May-16-08
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  minasina: http://online.crestbook.com/sofia08... this is post commentary by GM Sergei Shipov in Russian; "translated": (without board): http://translate.google.com/transla... may need instant reload

http://chesspro.ru/chessonline/onli... this was live commentary with GM Konstantin Sakaev in Russian; “translation” (without functioning board): http://google.com/translate?u=http%... may need instant reload

May-16-08  Petrosianic: <Of course Topalov can certainly win two legitimate games against Cheparinov in a tournament, but you never know. If there really is collusion, I feel sorry for both Topalov and Cheparinov.>

Even if there is no collusion, putting them both in the same (small) tournament is asking for trouble. People will whisper about it whether it was on the up-and-up or not.

And honestly, even if Cheparinov resolves to play his best, how well can he do against his boss? Having players from the same country together is bad enough. Having Player and Second in a tournament where their games together make up 20% of the total is asking for it. Blame Danailov on this one. Even knowing how bad Topalov's reputation is now, Silvio keeps putting him in harm's way.

May-16-08  hchrist: humpf, topalov always find a way to win this mtel masters... very strange. why donīt they invite carlsen to kick topalovīs ass?
May-16-08
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  acirce: Well yes, you can think what you want about the matter, but people who suggest that Radjabov-Mamedyarov (or Kramnik-Svidler or Aronian-Akopian or whatever) is the same thing are simply dishonest. It's obviously not, for several reasons.

It's not even the point that they are countrymen.

May-16-08  DCP23: <Dr. Funkenstein: May I suggest that Topalov is the stronger player posessing the white pieces>

Ha-ha, White pieces, you must be kidding. Have you seen this one?

I Cheparinov vs Topalov, 2008

May-16-08  Landzhev: <but people who suggest that Radjabov-Mamedyarov (or Kramnik-Svidler or Aronian-Akopian or whatever) is the same thing are simply dishonest.> I made such remarks before and I guess what you're saying could apply to me (being <dishonest> that is)... Not true though, no point in being <dishonest> or biased right here... I just think that most of the things said about Topalov (and for that matter Cheparinov) being involved in scandals and depicted as a "bad guy", and the conspiracy theories and the cheating mania every time he makes a good move (like anybody losing to Topalov is somehow a surprise!?)... all of this is really ridiculous and blown way out of proportion. This is not "Goodfellas":) <Petrosianic> <putting them both in the same (small) tournament is asking for trouble> - so, we should not give this young talented guy his fisrt chance to play at this level? This is asking for trouble? He does not deserve it, maybe? For the record, I'm sure a lot of people here don't know: Topalov and Cheparinov arrived in Sofia with two different seconds and are working seperately. Paco Vallejo is Topa's second and L'Ami is helping Cheparinov.
May-16-08  KamikazeAttack: This is a really poor game by black. White didnt even castle ... hell white won without touching a rook!

Hopeless display of chess.

May-16-08  Hesam7: <It's not even the point that they are countrymen.>

Ditto. Nobody implies collusion because they are both Bulgarian but because they share the same infamous manager.

May-16-08  sallom89: <acirce: Biggest upset so far this year.>

why? take it as if it is giveaway chess ;o

May-16-08  madlydeeply: reminds me of the Cooney/Foreman fight. Cooney was promoting Foreman at the time. Guess what? Cooney lost that one. Topalov is such a loser.

May-17-08
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: Once again, the modern game leaves me baffled. I didn't understand most of Topalov's game today--why on earth did he play 5.Bd2? Why did Cheparinov provoke d5-d6?
May-17-08  JuliusCaesar: I agree with An Englishman. A baffling game. Cheparinov played like a club player (a not very strong one at that) might in a simul against a top GM. I sincerely hope it was just an off day for him.
May-17-08  MichAdams: Short clips of the post-game press conference can be seen here:

http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail...

Select Chess TV News (R8).

Chepa's choice of the Grunfeld as Black is open to interpretation.

May-17-08  kingsindian2006: i think topa is playing great this tourney, but this game does look fishy.. it seems to easy and without to much fight from black..
May-18-08  ajile: <DCP23: I won 571 chessbucks (on a C$300 bet) on this game. I must be a visionary.>

If I had been paying attention I would have done the same as you. Seriously this game was a no-brainer to call.

: /

May-19-08
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  minasina: http://chessok.com/broadcast/live.p... Rybka analysis, some critical points and best line suggestions
Jun-16-08
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  minasina: Rybka analyses relocated (see my previous post): http://chessok.com/broadcast/live.p...

INTERNET CHESS CLUB / Chess.FM, FREE "GAME OF THE DAY": http://webcast.chessclub.com/Mtel08... commentary by GM Larry Christiansen

Jul-09-08  TommyC: I think this is an astonishing game by Topalov, and not just Cheparinov-out-of-form. Look at the position after <23.♘f3>! White has all but one piece on the back-rank . . . yet is positionally almost already won! More or less thanks to a single inaccuracy on move 8 from black.
Dec-16-08
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  pbernh: Is there a problem with playing 18...axb4 followed later by ...f4?
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