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Wilhelm Steinitz vs Hermann Voigt
Casual game (1885), Philadelphia, PA USA, Feb-??
Sicilian Defense: Closed Variation. Traditional (B25)  ·  0-1

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Aug-13-08  gazzawhite: This is tragic.
May-16-09
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  alexmagnus: Are this one and Fritz-Kramnik the only examples of world champs overlooking mate in 1?
May-16-09
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  keypusher: <alexmagnus> Talk about castling into it! I would guess this is a simul, so I am not sure it "counts".

Botvinnik allowed a mate in one here:

Tolush vs Botvinnik, 1944

Not sure if you consider Adolf Anderssen a world champ:

Staunton vs Anderssen, 1851

Botvinnik was completely lost when he got mated, while Anderssen was winning. Also, of course, Anderssen didn't have a clock!

The other funny thing is that Botvinnik and Anderssen both had plus scores against the opponents who checkmated them.

May-16-09  Granny O Doul: Simul games certainly don't count. Also the World Champion title was introduced only with the Steinitz-Zukertort match in 1886. If you count before that, then there's no justification to not count Morphy, Anderssen, Staunton, St. Amant, LaBourdannais, Deschapelles, Philidor, etc.
May-16-09  Granny O Doul: Hmm. Even before White's last, this was already the worst game of chess ever played.
Aug-17-09  tentsewang: HAHA the first world's chess champion got mate by a regular checkmate in 12 moves! Even NN plays better than that!
Jul-31-10  BobCrisp: Euwe overlooked a mate in one vs Salo Landau in a 1933 game that's not in the database.

Here's the crucial position:


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Euwe has to defend with Qg1 but finds instead 27.Bxb6.

Aug-02-10  BobCrisp: Correction: it's a June 1934 game. Euwe plays two training matches in preparation for the Zurich tournament - he defeats Johannes Hendrik Otto Van den Bosch 6-0 and Landau 4.5-1.5.
Jan-03-12
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  FSR: Was Steinitz drunk? Apart from falling into mate in one, he overlooked a forced win on both move 9 and move 10 with the simple Nxc6 bxc6 Nxd6+. I'm no Steinitz and I don't overlook such obvious tactical wins, even in simuls.
Jun-26-12
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  LoveThatJoker: Guess-the-Move Final Score:

Steinitz vs H Voigt, 1885.
YOU ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF VOIGT.
Your score: 20 (par = 13)

LTJ

Feb-02-13  smalldreams: "Event: Philadelphia. Site: London"
Feb-02-13  smalldreams: Is this actually a simul game?
Oct-15-16  wordfunph: uh ohhhh...
Jan-17-18  Jean Defuse: ...

<smalldreams: "Event: Philadelphia. Site: London" - Is this actually a simul game?>

An offhand game played in Feb. 1885 in Philadelphia - Source: Sid Pickard - The Games of Wilhelm Steinitz p. 179 #692.

...

Apr-23-20  mcb: Would you mind if I ask what the average rating is in this group of players?
Dec-09-20  sea7kenp: So, at Move 12, White's asking himself if it's time to Castle yet?

The answer? NO!!!!

May-24-23
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  fearlessone: I was asking myself what does black do after 9. Nxc6 and Stockfish confirms black is busted with best move (9.57) [24]  9. ... bxc6  10. Nxd6+ Ke7  11. Bf4 Qa5+  12. c3 Nh6  13. Nc4 Qd5  14. Qc2 Rd8  15. Ne3 Qh5  16. Be2 Qg6  17. Qa4 e5  18. Bxe5 Kf8  19. Bc7 Re8  20. O-O-O Kg8  21. Bd3 Qf6  22. Rhf1 Nf5  23. Bxf5 Bxf5 and black is very helpless in best line and down full piece and pawn with 3 pawn islands vs white 2.
Apr-17-24  thegoodanarchist: Midnight Cowboy!
Apr-17-24
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  Stonehenge: <Correction: it's a June 1934 game.>

No, 1933 is correct:

Euwe vs S Landau, 1933.

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