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May-29-08
 | | refutor: the Carlsen Variation? (5.Ne5) playing dodgy lines (and winning with them) is a good way to get variatons named after you see Carlsen vs Morozevich, 2008 |
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May-29-08
 | | Shams: what happens on 32...Nxc5 <?> |
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| May-29-08 | | Akavall: This line violates the opening principle of "don't move the same piece twice in the opening", but it looks interesting, and it seems that white still has an edge. |
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| May-29-08 | | Solitaire: Carlsenmagnus! |
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| May-30-08 | | Pawn Ambush: 9...Nd7 followed by 10...Nf6, whats that about?
14...Ne7 intending 15...Rb8 with the Minority attack in mind. seems better. 15 ... Ne8 moving the f6 knight yet again! (15...Ne7!?) |
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| May-30-08 | | Blackreptile: Congratulations Magnus to play secondary lines at top level. Only Morozevich dared to play like this;very refreshing for chess to go out of routine! |
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May-30-08
 | | achieve: I'm very impressed by Carlsen's vision, creativity and efficient technique in this game; the latter especially in the second half. |
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| May-30-08 | | JuliusCaesar: Has Carlsen been studying Bobby Fischer's games by any chance? In his first white game, he played an old Fischer sideline (Nc5!?) from his simul tour of 1964, and yesterday his play reminded a little me of Fischer vs. Petrosian (game 1, USSR - R o W 1970). |
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| May-30-08 | | arnaud1959: <Pawn Ambush: 9...Nd7 followed by 10...Nf6, whats that about?>
I don't know if it was a good idea but it has clearly a meaning. 9.- d7 invites white to play f4 if he wants to keep his on e5. Once it's done the black can come back on f6 planning to play later e4 knowing that white cannot push f3 anymore to protect e4. |
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| May-30-08 | | hrvyklly: <JuliusCaesar: Has Carlsen been studying Bobby Fischer's games by any chance?> I think so. Carlsen also played 6.h3!? in the Najdorf against Gelfand at Amber, a move which Fischer used a few times too. |
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| May-30-08 | | Method B: the long journey of the white g1 knight is on this chessbase diagram: http://chessbase.com/news/2008/misk... |
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May-30-08
 | | tamar: <Shams: what happens on 32...Nxc5 <?>>
click for larger viewShredder 8 on Deep Analysis gives 33 dxc5 Qb8 34 Qg3 Ne7 35 Re2 Re8 36 Nd4 Rf6 37 Qe3 Rff8 38 Ne6 Rg8 39 Ng5+ +1.19/20 
click for larger viewWhite controls events by alternating attacks on the g file and e file, and at the end the c5 pawn even becomes useful in the variation 39...Kh8 40 Nf7+ Kh7 41 Nd6 |
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May-30-08
 | | Ulhumbrus: 4...Nf6 makes no attempt to prevent Ne5. 4..Bg4 pins the White KN while 4...Nc6 opposes White's KN on e5.
5 Ne5 frees the f pawn to advance to f4 and so to attain an advantageous stonewall attack pawn formation. 5...Ne4 frees Black's f7 pawn to advance to f6. |
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May-30-08
 | | moronovich: <hrvyklly> 6.h3!? was a suggestion from a fan , according to Carlsen himself. |
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| May-30-08 | | minasina: This fourth game and third game (Leko vs Carlsen, 2008 ) commentary by GM Zoltan Gyimesi here: http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail... |
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| May-30-08 | | chessya11: At long last, a youngster has defeated Old Man Leko. Well done. |
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| May-30-08 | | Jim Bartle: Old...man...Leko?? A dagger to the heart!
Seems just yesterday he was the Wunderkind. |
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| May-30-08 | | chessya11: Sorry, I meant no harm towards Leko. It's just that he was undefeated against Generation Z: Karjakin, Radjabov, Carlsen. Until now. |
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| May-30-08 | | Whack8888: I dont get a lot of this game, but Carlsen's play seems very exciting for the chess world. What a fun game from Carlsen! |
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| May-30-08 | | Whack8888: I accidentally recently played the black side of an exchange Caro Kann (I wanted to play the Sicilian, but my mouse slipped!). It is interesting how it is like an Black side exchange variation in the Queen's Gambit Declined but with an extra tempo. It sort of makes sense to me--if Black can more or less hold out against the minority attack in the Exchange Queen's Gambit Declined, then surely White will get a lot of decent play for his long term pawn weakness. For Black in the QGD, he cant play his own minority attack (f5, followed by f4) because it takes to long and White's minority attack will simply blow him away -- however with the extra tempo in this pawn structure, it seems White is able to play f4 successfully. Sorry if this is a little rambling. |
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| May-30-08 | | Bobsterman3000: What is so bad or risky about 5.Ne5 in this variation? Can someone explain? |
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| May-31-08 | | kingsindian2006: i enjoy magnus is play at the end . Move 43. he sets his king in motion knowing his pawn will need the escort to win the game once pieces are traded..also carlsen's bishop was very well played throughout the game till the end. |
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May-31-08
| | tamar: Of course just a rapid game, but reminiscent of Pillsbury vs Tarrasch, 1895 in that Leko like Tarrasch played many solid moves, but succumbed when the stakes kept getting raised higher and higher. |
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May-31-08
| | tamar: <Atking>
As to why 32...Nxc5 33 dxc5 Rxc5 is not the main line, I think it is because the move 32 Be1 clears h4 for the knight. Very clever this Norwegian.
Which in turn makes possible the sequence 34 Rxg6 Qxg6 35 Rxg6 Kxg6 36 Nh4+ Kh7 37 Nxf5 Rc4 38 Nxg7 Kxg7 39 Qg4+ Kh7 40 Qd7+ Kh8 41 Qxd5 R4xf4 42 Bg3 
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| May-31-08 | | arnaud1959: <Bobsterman3000: What is so bad or risky about 5.Ne5 in this variation? Can someone explain?> It seems to go against the principle of not playing twice with the same piece in the opening. But even for the purists you can see that white is not behind in the developpement after this move. Both white and black played with one knight and after 5.-g6 they both will have played 2 pawn moves putting their bishops into action. |
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