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Magnus Carlsen vs Andrei Volokitin
Aerosvit (2008), Foros UKR, rd 10, Jun-18
Queen's Gambit Declined: Lasker Defense (D56)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Jun-18-08  grebenarov: MindCtrol9: <Yes,they know it's a draw>

no they obviously don't ;)

Jun-18-08  sitzkrieg: I seems playing out drawn endgames hoping for blunders of the opponent does not work so well against other young players. Go volo!
Jun-18-08  sabitsingson: finally, a draw.
Jun-18-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  chessgames.com: Thanks to everybody for participating in today's live broadcast. We also thank you for your patience during the lengthy transmission outage of the official site.

Congratulations to Magnus Carlsen for clinching first place in the prestigious 2008 Aerosvit tournament.

We will be broadcasting games from the final round, tomorrow morning at 8:00am (USA/Eastern). Hope to see you then.

Jun-18-08  Atking: Why Volokitin plays that ? It's draw already 20 moves ago.
Jun-18-08  Atking: At least draw agree! Tankschess,games.com
Jun-18-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  Wild Bill: Congratulations to Magnus the tournament champion.
Jun-18-08  percyblakeney: Well played by both and a real fight, Carlsen's undefeated sequence is getting quite long, especially if the rapid match against Leko counts, in that case it's +10 -0 =17 since the loss against Mamedyarov in Baku.
Jun-18-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: At least one player was in a fighting mood, maybe both of them.
Jun-18-08  ketchuplover: Why not 32.Rxb4?
Jun-19-08  ravel5184: <MindCtrol9> <I post all my comments in orange>
Jun-19-08  Ulhumbrus: From the Carlsen website:
<Magnus played 1.d4 against Volokitin. He had of course noticed how the Ukrainian misplayed the middle game against Van Wely in round 8. The appearant novelty 14.Qe4 lead to a better ending for white. Magnus needed a draw to secure tournament victory with a round to go, and was quite happy to be in a position to put pressure on Volokitin without too much risk. After black advanced his b-pawn, Magnus felt very comfortable with the position and played fast. Maybe too fast. Having played 23.b3? he immediately saw that Volokitin could respond b4! so that he should have played e4 instead. Magnus might still have an edge but when he chose 30.Nd5 (instead of maybe Nh5) it might not be so difficult for black to hold. Volokitin deserves praise, he defended very well in the rest of the game, for instance when finding only-moves like 33....Rd7 and 48....Bg2. In the end Magnus overpressed slightly and had to suffer a rook ending a pawn down for some moves before a draw was agreed. With 7.5/10 Magnus has already won the tournament!
He did not look that happy right after the game as he was very tired (and still a bit angry with himself for having played 23...b3), but after a while he really appreciated the outright victory and great performance in Aerosvit 2008!>
Jun-19-08  minasina: Continuing chess and tennis related stuff (see pages 16-18):

<We congratulate Magnus Carlsen with this fantastic result, which reminds me of a 17-year-old Boris Becker> http://www.chessvibes.com/coverstor...

Jun-19-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  notyetagm: White to play: 14 ?


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Here Carlsen (White) played the novelty 14 ♕c2-e4!?, <PINNING> the Black e5-pawn to the <UNDEFENDED> Black e7-queen.

Position after 14 ♕c2-e4!?


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Oct-03-09  Garech: <ThomYorke: I dont think we should compare Federer and Fischer. Cause Federer loves a good match. He never ran against Nadal. But Fischer ran against Karpov, just like a scared little dog>

99% of people then and now are in agreement that Fischer would have crushed Karpov. The conditions he was demanding are very close to how tournaments are now played. He wasn't scared, he was just tempremental. I see from other posts you are claiming to be a 2400+ player. If that was the case I think you would have more respect for Fischer and understand that a defensive player like Karpov would have no hope of scaring him in the least. If you want to settle this with a game of chess, let me know the time and the place. You can have white.

Oct-03-09  slomarko: <99% of people then and now are in agreement that Fischer would have crushed Karpov.> This simply garbage you made up. In fact 99% of people who have some understanding of chess are in agreement that it is highly unlikely that either of them would "crush" the other.

<If that was the case I think you would have more respect for Fischer and understand that a defensive player like Karpov would have no hope of scaring him in the least.> Karpov a defensive player? Tell the truth, you have just moved to chess from baseball or football.

Oct-03-09  dx9293: <Fischer-Karpov> It would have been a competitive match, within 3 points or less either way.

I think Fischer would have won in 1975, but he certainly would not have crushed Karpov, and Karpov's play was already of such a standard that he could have certainly emerged victorious.

Oct-11-09  Garech: <slomarko: This simply garbage you made up. In fact 99% of people who have some understanding of chess are in agreement that it is highly unlikely that either of them would "crush" the other ... Karpov a defensive player? Tell the truth, you have just moved to chess from baseball or football.>

"Soviet Grandmasters privately scoffed at Karpov’s chances in 1975. Most pundits believed he would lose… and lose badly." – Lev Alburt (on Karpov’s chances against Fischer)

I have been playing chess for 20 years. I play at chesspark.com my user name is Destrudo. Come and find me and I'll prove it.

Oct-19-09  Everett: This garbage again?
Oct-27-09  Garech: <Everett: This garbage again?>

Well, it's a quote man, you are calling Lev Alburt garbage!

You really think Karpov had winning chances?

Oct-27-09  gus inn: Kasparov does give Karpov a fair chance in MGP.

But perhaps he hasn´t got the skills as e.g.<Garech> seems to contain !?

"Life is like a box of wooden pieces.Sometimes you get a pawn,sometimes you get a king..."

Oct-27-09  TheGladiatres: <The conditions he was demanding are very close to how tournaments are now played>

If my memory serves me right he demanded that Karpov needed to win the match by 2 points, I think it was 10-8. Hardly fair IMO.

Oct-27-09  Garech: <TheGladiatres>:

<If my memory serves me right he demanded that Karpov needed to win the match by 2 points, I think it was 10-8. Hardly fair IMO.>

On the contrary, what Fischer was proposing was more advantageous to the challenger than the system that was in place. To quote Wikipedia:

"...Fischer objected to the "best of 24 games" championship match format that had been used from 1951 onwards, claiming that it would encourage whoever got an early lead to play for draws. Instead he demanded that the match should be won by whoever first won 10 games, except that if the score reached 9–9 he should remain champion. He argued that this was more advantageous to the challenger than the champion's advantage under the existing system, where the champion retained the title if the match was tied at 12–12 including draws..."

This would have made for a much more exciting championship with the players playing to win always as a draw would gain them nothing - as opposed to going maybe 1 or 1.5 points ahead and playing for draws, a feature of many world championships (including '72) that led to boring draw-marathons.

In fairness it should be noted too that Fischer made something in the region of 120 demands and FIDE met 119 of them, so they weren't being totally unreasonable. Still, it's a great shame for the history of chess that Fischer Vs. Karpov never happened. The latter in particular said it was one of the great regrets of his career.

Jan-09-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  Eyal: During the live kibitzing, 45.Rb6 Rh5 46.Rxb4 Rxh2 47.a4 h5 48.a5 h4 49.a6 h3 50.Rb7 Rb2(!) 51.Bd5(??) was suggested as a winning idea for White:


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But in fact, this is nicely refuted by 51...Re2+!! - the point being that after 52.Kxe2 Bxd5 the king blocks the 2nd rank for the rook, and so White cannot prevent ...h2.

Nov-10-17  Whitehat1963: Recent high-level look at the Opening of the Day.
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