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| Jul-10-08 |
| Shams: Mr. Sloan regularly essays this defense?? |
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Jul-11-08
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| whiteshark: Isn't it that no one is watching until you make such a move? |
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Jul-19-08
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| samsloan: Next time somebody plays this against me, I may play 10. .... Bb4. Then if 11. Qxb4 Bxb7 12. Qxb7 Nd7 and White is way behind in development. |
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Jul-19-08
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| samsloan: You would be surprised at how many players refuse to play 1. e4 against me because they are afraid of this defense. |
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| Jul-27-08 |
| cannibal: I somewhat wonder for what reason, though. White is simply winning out of the opening, and even though there are probably even safer ways to convert it, he seems to bring it home without too much trouble. Then when black has nothing left, he plays an inexplicable 26.Qa4?? (@#$% happens on this level) when 26. Be4+ Kf7 (or ... Nxe4 27. Qe8+) 27.Qb3+ was already 1-0. |
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| Aug-04-08 |
| najdorfman: "Next time somebody...Blah, blah...and White is way behind in development." What development? Black's rooks are on their original squares. So is the queen. The knight is developed--that's it. Your down four pawns with no real compensation. I'm sure the entire chess world is trembling in fear at your use of Damiano's defense. White had improvements on moves 11, 12, 13, especially move 14. Be3? etc. etc. This game is garbage. Next case. |
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| Aug-04-08 |
| dumbgai: <samsloan> I would be happy to play a match with you (classical time, rapid, blitz, anything) in which you played this defence in every game. By the way my rating is 1732, about one class level below yours. In this game white was winning out of the opening but lost due to blunders in the middle game. |
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| Aug-04-08 |
| RoyalFlush: 8. Qg3+ gives white more incentive.
8.Qg3+ Kf6 9.Qf4+ Ke7 (Kg6 Bf7#) 10.Qe5+ Kd7 11.Qe6# Black's only option is 8.. Kh5, after which the black king is hopelessly exposed. Mr. Sloan may have won many games with the Damiano, but this is mainly because of white's inexperience with this particular opening. But I guess that's the whole point of playing the Damiano defense :) |
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| Aug-04-08 |
| dumbgai: <RoyalFlush> I think after 8. Qg3+ black can play Qg5 instead of Kf6. Then play might continue 9. Bf7+ Kf6 10. Qf3+ Ke7 when white still has a good position but is not clearly winning as he is after 8. h4. |
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| Aug-04-08 |
| RoyalFlush: <dumbgai> You're right. I overlooked Qg5 thinking Bf7+ was a winner for white, but black keeps the queen with Kf6. |
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Aug-11-08
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| whiteshark: <Opening of the Day: <Damiano Defence>> Opening Explorer
Only 2 wins by Black - guess who was it in both games. :D |
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| Aug-11-08 |
| Hot Logic: White completely screwed up this game. After he got the advantage it was time to consolidate his position and get his king to safety - as well as swap a few more pieces off to clear the board so he could use his material advantage. Instead he wasted a whole bunch of moves trying to gain even MORE material and lost due to his GREED. 13.d3 and 14.Be3 were the beginning of the end - White had two better ideas with either h5+ followed by forking with e5 (thereby clearing the e4 square for light diagonal checks) or O-O and finishing his development. Letting a rook onto his 7th with his King uncastled was bad bad bad. Having gotten an early advantage White rushes for a quick kill when he should have been more patient. |
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| Aug-11-08 |
| PhilFeeley: CG should have the games here that Sloan lost with this opening. It's only fair... |
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| Aug-11-08 |
| cannibal: <Hot Logic>
Letting the rook onto the 7th didn't yet hurt white much, he was still clearly winning until he blundered a free piece on move 26. |
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| Aug-15-08 |
| Salaskan: Examine the position after 12...Nf6. White is four pawns up, has a lead in development, and his king is safe, as opposed to the black king which is out in the open. White has a winning advantage here, but blundered it away in the middlegame. |
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| Oct-06-08 |
| dumbgai: <PhilFreeley> Here's one where Sloan tried this defense against an IM. Needless to say, it didn't turn out as well for him. A Lenderman vs S Sloan, 2007 |
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Feb-09-09
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| beenthere240: Playing against someone almost 300 points lower, he might as well offer pawn and move. Or play the lativan. |
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Aug-28-09
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| birthtimes: 12. e5 keeps the initiative with White. 12...Qe7 13. h5+ Kf7 14. Qd5+ Kf8 15. d4 Nf6 16. Qf3 Bg4 17. Qe3 Rb6 18. Be4 and now White can castle safely and continue his development without any compensation by Black. |
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Aug-28-09
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| birthtimes: 10...Bb4 11. Qxb4 Bxb7 12. Qxb7 Nd7 13. e5 Nxe5 14. Qe4+ Kf7 15. Qxe5 Nf6 16. O-O Re8 17. Qc5 and White has safely castled and will be able to complete his development without any compensation by Black. |
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| Aug-28-09 |
| AnalyzeThis: White didn't play this perfectly, but with any reasonable 26th move, he wins easily. |
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| Sep-19-09 |
| Superfish: In the line 8.Q-G3+ Q-G5, I think White keeps a strong intiative with 9. QxC7. On 9...QxG2, 10. Q-F7+, and D4+ and E5 are coming in. In the game after 11...R-B8, white can play C-3, D-3, N-D2 and N-C4. Black has a lead in development, but white has no weakness and 4 pawns, so he can just build a fortress, develop and win (as long as he's careful not to let black in!). I'm sorry, Sam, but they are right. Its fun to play white here! |
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| Sep-19-09 |
| TheBish: This is the game of the day?? An "A" player against a "B" player, in a dubious opening where the winning side blunders at the end? Well, it looks like CG came to their senses, and changed the "Game of the Day" for Sep-19-09 to this one: Short vs N Grandelius, 2009 |
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Sep-19-09
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| RandomVisitor: 3 minutes per move:
Daniel F Aldrich (1677) - Sam Sloan (1955)
[C40]
US Open Cherry Hill NJ (8), 04.08.2007
[Rybka 3 ]
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 last book move
2...f6 1.06/16
3.Nxe5 0.88/16 fxe5?  3.09/17
[Rybka 3 : 3...Ne7 4.Nf3 d5 5.Bd3 Nbc6 6.0-0 Nb4 7.Re1 Nxd3 8.cxd3 Kf7 9.Nc3 c6 10.h3 Rb8 0.88/16 ] 4.Qh5+ 2.88/17 Ke7 3.84/18
[Rybka 3 : 4...g6 5.Qxe5+ Qe7 6.Qxh8 Qxe4+ 7.Kd1 Ne7 8.Nc3 Qf5 9.Qxh7 Nbc6 10.Qh4 Qf7 11.Bb5 a6 12.Bxc6 dxc6 13.Ne4 Bf5 14.Nf6+ Kd8 15.d3 Kc8 16.Re1 Kb8 17.Nh7 2.88/17 ] 5.Qxe5+ 3.64/16 Kf7 3.64/17
6.Bc4+ 3.64/18 d5 3.64/16
7.Bxd5+ 3.64/18 Kg6 3.64/16
8.h4 3.44/18 h6 3.64/18
9.Bxb7 3.44/18 Bd6 3.64/16
10.Qa5 3.65/16 Nc6 4.44/18
11.Bxc6 4.22/17 Rb8 4.70/15
12.Nc3? 2.85/17
[Rybka 3 : 12.e5 Bf8 13.h5+ Kf7 4.70/15 ]
12...Nf6 3.08/14
13.d3 2.74/16 Rf8 3.37/15
14.Be3 2.92/17 Rxb2 2.89/16
15.Bc5? 1.26/17
[Rybka 3 : 15.0-0-0 Bb4 16.Qxa7 Bxc3 17.Qa3 Ng4 18.Qxc3 Nxe3 19.fxe3 Rxa2 20.e5 Qe7 21.Rdf1 Kh7 22.Kd2 2.89/16 ] 15...Rxc2 1.41/16
16.Kd1 0.49/13
[Rybka 3 : 16.Ba4 Bxc5 17.Qxc5 Nd7 18.Bxd7 Bxd7 19.0-0 Kh7 20.Rae1 Bh3 21.gxh3 Rf3 22.Qe5 Qxh4 23.Ne2 c5 24.d4 Qxh3 25.Qh2 Qg4+ 26.Qg2 Qxe4 27.Ng3 Qg4 1.41/16 ] 16...Rb2 1.27/15
[Rybka 3 : 16...Rxc3 17.Qxc3 Bxc5 18.Qxc5 Qxd3+ 19.Ke1 Nh5 20.Rd1 Nf4 21.Be8+ Rxe8 22.Qc6+ Re6 23.Qxe6+ Bxe6 24.Rxd3 Nxd3+ 25.Ke2 Nb4 26.Rc1 Bxa2 27.Rxc7 a5 28.Kd2 Bf7 29.Rc5 a4 30.Kc3 Na2+ 31.Kb2 0.49/13 ] 17.Kc1 1.14/14 Rb8 1.71/16
[Rybka 3 : 17...Rb6 18.Bxb6 axb6 19.Qa4 Bc5 20.f3 Qxd3 21.Qc2 Qd4 22.Rd1 Qe5 23.Kb2 Be6 24.Qd2 Bd6 1.14/14 ] 18.e5 1.71/14 Bxe5 2.09/16
19.Bxf8 2.09/16 Bf4+ 2.51/18
20.Kc2 2.47/17 Qxf8 2.55/15
21.Be4+? 0.88/14
[Rybka 3 : 21.Rab1 Rb6 22.Rxb6 axb6 23.Qb5 Kh7 24.Re1 g6 25.Ne4 Bd6 26.Nxd6 Qxd6 27.Qc4 Kg7 28.Be8 Nd5 29.h5 g5 30.Bg6 2.55/15 ] 21...Kf7? 2.98/18
[Rybka 3 : 21...Nxe4 22.dxe4 Qf6 23.Rad1 Be5 24.f3 Rb6 25.Rd5 Ra6 26.Rxe5 Rxa5 27.Rxa5 Qb6 28.Rd5 Be6 29.h5+ Kf6 30.Rhd1 c6 31.Rd6 Kf7 32.Rb1 Qf2+ 33.Rd2 Qc5 34.Rb7+ 0.88/14 ] 22.Rab1 2.90/17 Rb6 2.90/16
23.Rxb6 2.62/19 axb6 2.62/17
24.Bd5+ 2.43/17 Kg6 2.65/16
25.Qb5 2.02/16 Qa3 3.02/15
[Rybka 3 : 25...Bd6 26.Bf3 Kh7 27.Re1 Bd7 28.Qc4 Kh8 29.Re2 c5 30.Re1 Bb8 31.a4 Qd8 32.g3 Be8 2.02/16 ] 26.Qa4?  -1.73/21
[Rybka 3 : 26.Be4+ Kf7 27.Qb3+ Qxb3+ 28.axb3 Be5 29.Bc6 Bf5 30.g3 Ng4 31.Re1 g5 32.hxg5 hxg5 33.Ne4 Kg6 34.Be8+ Kh6 35.f3 Nf6 3.02/15 ] 26...Qxa4+ -1.73/22
27.Nxa4 -1.73/21 Nxd5 -1.73/19
28.Re1 -1.87/19 Bf5 -1.87/18
29.a3 -2.07/21 Bd6 -1.87/20
30.Kb3 -3.07/18
[Rybka 3 : 30.Nc3 Nf4 31.Ne4 Bxa3 32.Ra1 Bb4 33.g3 Ne2 34.Ra7 Nd4+ 35.Kd1 Nb5 36.Ra4 Ba5 37.Kc2 Be1 38.Kb3 h5 -1.87/20 ] 30...Nf4 -2.90/16
31.d4 -3.27/20 Nd3 -2.32/20
32.Rf1 -2.41/19 Kh5 -2.03/18
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| Sep-21-09 |
| Extremophile: why Ponzi Scheme? maybe because it seems to be profitable but it collapses at some point? |
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| Nov-15-09 |
| Qb6: Mr. Sloan: After looking at this, I tried the Damiano myself. Result: 1-0. That kinda says it all. You might want to look at my kibitz on M Thaler vs S Sloan, 2003. |
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sac: 10...Nc6