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Evgeny Alekseev vs Magnus Carlsen
41st Biel International Chess Festival (2008), Biel SUI, rd 2, Jul-21
Queen's Indian Defense: Fianchetto. Nimzowitsch Variation Nimzowitsch Attack (E15)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Jul-21-08
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  notyetagm: <Ulhumbrus: If Black can only draw the ending after 35...Qd3, one alternative is 35...Qa1 threatening the manoeuvre ...Qa1-h1-g2+>

Yes, perhaps penetrating with the Black queen, trying to get at the <LOOSE> g2-square created by that <KILLER PAWN> Black f3-pawn was a stronger plan in retrospect.

Jul-21-08  kamalakanta: Did Carlsen go wrong on move 45? Should he have played 45...Bb6? (instead of 45...Bf6)
Jul-21-08
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  notyetagm: <kamalakanta: Did Carlsen go wrong on move 45? Should he have played 45...Bb6? (instead of 45...Bf6)>

We will have to wait to see what <Chess Today> says in a few hours. Hopefully IM Max Notkin will annotate this fantastic struggle.

Jul-21-08  Ezzy: Alekseev (2716) - Carlsen (2775) [E15]
41st Biel International Chess Festival 0:39:33–0:56:33 (2), 21.07.2008

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Ba6 5.Qa4 Bb7 6.Bg2 c5 7.dxc5 bxc5 8.0–0 Be7 9.Nc3 0–0 10.Rd1 Qb6 11.Bf4 Rd8 12.Rd2 d6 13.Rad1 a6 14.Qc2 <This might be new. 14 Ng5 and 14 a3 have been played before.> 14...Qc7 15.e4 Threatening the powerful 16 e5 15...Nh5 16.Be3 Nc6 17.h3 h6 18.Nh2 Rac8 19.Nf1 Nf6 20.f4 d5 21.cxd5 Nd4 22.Qb1 <[22.Bxd4 cxd4 23.Rxd4 Bc5]> 22...exd5 23.e5 Ne4 24.Nxe4 dxe4 25.Kf2 Nf3 26.Rxd8+ Rxd8 27.Rxd8+ Qxd8 28.Qc1 g5 <One of my favourite moves of the game. An energetic move from Carlsen creating some nice mating threats if white plays 29 Bxc5. Good vision from Carlsen>. 29.Bxf3 <[29.Bxc5 gxf4 30.gxf4 Bh4+ 31.Ng3 (31.Ke2 Qd3#) 31...Bxg3+ 32.Kxg3 Qh4#] >29...exf3 30.fxg5 hxg5 <Carlsen threatens to win a pawn with a big advantage 31...Qd3 32 Qd2 Qf5 33 g4 Qxe5 >31.Qd2 Qb6 32.Nh2 <[32.Bxg5 c4+ 33.Be3 Qe6 34.Nh2 Qxh3 35.Nxf3 Qf5 36.Qe2 and black seems to have white a bit tied down with a nasty pin.]> 32...Qg6< Carlsen defends the g5 pawn and has ideas of infiltrating whites position with 33...Qb1 34...Qh1> 33.Ng4 <[33.Nxf3 Qf5!]> 33...c4 34.Nf6+ Kg7 35.g4 <[35.Ne8+ Kg8 36.Nd6 Bc6 37.g4 Qh6 38.Nf5 Qxh3 39.Nxe7+ Kg7 40.Nf5+ Kh7 41.Bxg5 Qh2+ 42.Ke3 Qxe5+ 43.Kf2 Qh2+ draw]> 35...Qd3 36.Ne8+ Kg6 <Black still threatens 37...Bc5 winning> 37.Nd6 Ba8 38.b3 Qxd2+ 39.Bxd2 cxb3 40.axb3 f6 41.Bc3 fxe5 42.Bxe5 a5 43.Nf5 Bd8 44.Bc3 Bb7 45.Nd4 Bf6 46.Ke3 Be5 47.Be1 Bxd4+ 48.Kxd4 ˝–˝

A very entertaining struggle. Carlsen played energetic moves to try and gain the initiative. This is so typical of Kasparov’s play. When Alekseev played 28 Qc1 threatening to take the pawn on c5, Carlsen played a wonderful counter attacking move 28…g5 which threatened mating patterns that I wouldn’t of thought existed. 29 Bxc5 would have given Carlsen a workable advantage with the mating threats he discovered. The guy has great vision.

Alekseev also played a good game, repelling all threats with accurate moves. A good game by both players. Am looking forward to their next game.

Jul-21-08  Rolfo: acirce, about those comments of faust's (Ian Nepomniachti); His very youth should cut him some slack this time together with the fact it happened on a chat channel (may be he envy Magnus?), otherwise I would be really disappointed on his behaviour
Jul-21-08
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  alexmagnus: <acirce, about those comments of faust's (Ian Nepomniachti); His very youth should cut him some slack this time together with the fact it happened on a chat channel (may be he envy Magnus?), otherwise I would be really disappointed on his behaviour>

Nepomniachtchi never excelled with a good chat behaviour. I remember once once on Playchess some GM played blitz and someone of the kibitzes (rated around 2000) said that move X loses because of move Y. Well, for Nepo that was obvious and he started a whole buch of disrespectful comments about that kibitzer (well, sarcastic comments in a fashion of "yeah, that was really deep")... After that many kibitzers stopped following Nepo's games :)

As for his comment on the Carlsen game, it may be well envy, considering the fact that some 4 years ago he beat Carlsen (apparently their only serious game against each other so far) and now he would probably have abolutely no chance against him.

Jul-21-08  percyblakeney: Nepo is a great player, and greater players than him say things that can be criticised now and then. Still, Carlsen is slightly younger but does in general sound a bit more mature than Nepo (or Nakamura).
Jul-21-08  Atking: <<acirce> On 37..Bd5, 38.Nf5 Bb4 39.Qxd3 cxd3 40.a3 would have saved White.Point being 40..d2 41.Bxd2! Bxd2 42.Ne7+ thanks to Black having played ..Kg6 instead of the engine-favoured ..36...Kh7> Good point I think Carlsen who haved time could play more slowly hese last moves. Have you some analysis on 36...Kh7? Does the chance to win real? Black looks clearly better but...
Jul-22-08
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  notyetagm: Position after 25 ... ♘d4-f3


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Notice how the Black e4-pawn <FOUNDATION PAWN> cannot be <UNDERMINED> since White cannot attack it with either his d- or f-pawns.

<FIANCHETTO BISHOP SUPPORTS ADVANCED KNIGHT>: 25 ... Nd4-f3 Black f3-knight supported by Black e4-pawn,b7-bishop

<REMOVE THE FOUNDATION>: 25 ... Nd4-f3 Black e4-foundation pawn cannot be attacked by pawns

Jul-22-08
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  notyetagm: Black to play: 29 ... ?


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<Ezzy: ... 28 ... g5


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<One of my favourite moves of the game. An energetic move from Carlsen creating some nice mating threats if white plays 29 Bxc5. Good vision from Carlsen>. 29.Bxf3 <[29.Bxc5 gxf4 30.gxf4 Bh4+ 31.Ng3 (31.Ke2 Qd3#)


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31...Bxg3+ 32.Kxg3 Qh4#]


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>>

Wow, what a mate that is in that last line: 31 ♘e2-g3 ♗h4x♘g3+! 32 ♔f2x♗g3 <decoy to g3> ♕d8-h4#.

Jul-22-08
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  notyetagm: Black to play: 44 ... ?


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Here Carlsen (Black) played 44 ... ♗a8-b7 and not 44 ... ♗a8-d5?, attacking the White b3-pawn.

Why? Because 44 ... ♗a7-d5? makes a <KNIGHT FORK ALIGNMENT> with the Black g6-king, allowing the tactical blow 45 ♗c3xa5!.

(VAR) Position after 44 ... ♗a8-d5? 45 ♗c3xa5!


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The point is that the Black d8-bishop must defend the e7-forking square (<TACTICAL BASE>) of the White f5-knight and so cannot also defend the Black a5-pawn.

(VAR) Position after 45 ... ♗d8x♗a5 <deflection from e7} 46 ♘f5-e7+


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Jul-22-08
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  notyetagm: White to play: 37 ?


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<Ezzy: ... <Black still threatens 37...Bc5 winning>>

Wow, in this position I -COMPLETELY- missed the threat of the <PIN> 37 ... ♗e7-c5!, which wins on the spot.

But Alekseev (White) did not miss it: he played 37 ♘e8-d6 to meet the threat of 37 ... ♗e7-c5! by <BLOCKING> the line from e7 to c5 at d6.

Position after 37 ♘e8-d6 (<blocking> Δ 37 ... ♗e7-c5!)


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<<<ALWAYS BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR WAYS TO CREATE AND AVOID <PINS>!>>> -- Weteschnik

Jul-22-08  amateur05: This game shows how difficult it has become to play against the Norwegian monster. He puts so much pressure on his opponenets that even making a draw is a heroic achievement for any player. For example, in this game Alekseev was under constant pressure and he had to put up a fierce resistance. Making moves like 25. Kf2 is never easy. I wonder if any of the remaining opponents of Carlsen will manage a draw against him in this tournament.
Jul-22-08  Ulhumbrus: Can anyone provide the Fritz or Rybka analysis after Black plays 35...Qa1 instead of 35...Qd3?
Jul-22-08  amateur05: <Ulhumbrus> I could be wrong, but 35...Qb1 36. Bxg5 Qh1 looks bad for black. For example, 37. Bh6+ Kh8 (or ...Kg6 38. Qc2+) 38. Bg7+! Kxg7 39. Qg5+ with a checkmate.
Jul-22-08  percyblakeney: <This game shows how difficult it has become to play against the Norwegian monster. He puts so much pressure on his opponenets that even making a draw is a heroic achievement for any player. For example, in this game Alekseev was under constant pressure and he had to put up a fierce resistance>

Yep, I think it was even more impressive than some of Carlsen's wins. The question was if Alekseev was going to save the draw or not, and he defended well in time trouble. But just the fact that Carlsen gets into these favourable positions also with black, while using much less time than his opponents, shows how strong he is.

Jul-22-08  Ezzy: <notyetagm:> Thanks for putting those mating patterns into diagrams. Great idea, it's much more pleasingly aesthetic.

By the way, I enjoy your analysis format with the chess vocabulary. Keep up the enthusiasm and good work! (Blimey, I sound like a schoolteacher :-) )

Jul-22-08  Ezzy: <notyetagm: Why? Because 44 ... a7-d5? makes a <KNIGHT FORK ALIGNMENT> with the Black g6-king, allowing the tactical blow 45 c3xa5!.>

Nice tactic. That kind of tactic is so easy to miss.

Jul-22-08
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  notyetagm: <Ezzy: <notyetagm: Why? Because 44 ... a7-d5? makes a <KNIGHT FORK ALIGNMENT> with the Black g6-king, allowing the tactical blow 45 c3xa5!.> Nice tactic. That kind of tactic is so easy to miss.>

Yes, I forgot who pointed that tactic out during the live relay. Perhaps it was <percyblakeney>.

Jul-22-08
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  notyetagm: <Ezzy: <notyetagm:> Thanks for putting those mating patterns into diagrams. Great idea, it's much more pleasingly aesthetic. By the way, I enjoy your analysis format with the chess vocabulary. Keep up the enthusiasm and good work! (Blimey, I sound like a schoolteacher :-) )>

Thanks.

I am also a fan of your game annotations. I often use them as starting points for my own explanations, as above.

Jul-22-08  Ulhumbrus: <amateur05: <Ulhumbrus> I could be wrong, but 35...Qb1 36. Bxg5 Qh1 looks bad for black. For example, 37. Bh6+ Kh8 (or ...Kg6 38. Qc2+) 38. Bg7+! Kxg7 39. Qg5+ with a checkmate.> This suggests that on 35...Qb1 36 Bg5 White threatens Bh6+. However after 36 Bg5 a better alternative to 36...Qh1 at once is 36...Bc5+! and this may win for Black.
Jul-22-08
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  notyetagm: This game gets my coveted <BEST FIGHTING DRAW> award for 2008 thus far.

I would not be surprised if Carlsen ends up winning this award for 2008, with his great fighting spirit. On the other hand I would be -SHOCKED- if it was won by Leko, Kramnik, or Svidler.

Jul-22-08  amateur05: <Ulhumbrus> You are right. Spike suggests 36. Ne8+ Kh7 37. Nd6 Qh1 38. Kg3 Bd5(-0.70)
Jul-23-08  4tmac:


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/ WHITE TO MOVE after 35. BxP? B-c5+ 36. B-e3 Q-d3 or similar positions if white neglects to play 37. N-d6 (in this line the N is on e8 and the K is on g6)..........WHITE gets mated by blacks queen or loses his bishop unless he plays 37. QxQ PxQ 38. BxB (the pawns can't be stopped anyway!!)


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/ 38. ... d2 and the pawn queens!! I based this on diagrams by notyetagm and analysis by Ezzy but don't blame them if I messed something up!

Jul-23-08  Atking: <4tmac & Ulhumbrus> Sound beautiful and very logical exploitation of the f3 pawn! Bravo! It's a pity that Carlsen didn't take the time (He had a lot and played on his opponent time pressure) to conclud beautifully his fantastic execution. I think that Carlsen will soon progress (again) on both: his opening preparation and his fight maturity then we will have definitively a new world champion. Can we dream of a 2900? But this needs few players up to 2800...
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