| Aug-06-08 | | hms123: <47....Qc6!!> Even looking at the position it seems impossible at first.
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| Aug-06-08 | | jaybugg13: This is a lovely game, I wonder if anyone can post an eval after 40...Ng7. |
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Aug-06-08
 | | luzhin: Actually 47.d7 was a terrible blunder. Probably 47. Rd5 was essential (to be followed by Qb3 if Black still plays Qc6). White had already lost the thread with 45.Bb5, when 45 Qc6 would have kept his grip. Gelfand's 41. Nd5! deserved better. |
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Aug-06-08
 | | Marmot PFL: With just two moves 45.Bb5? (Qc6  ) and 47.d7?? (Rd5=) Gelfand snatches defeat from the jaws of victory. |
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Aug-06-08
 | | tamar: Had Gelfand found 45 Qc6 or even 45 Bb3, this game would fit nicely in his next collection of best games. Then 47 d7? is like seeing Michelangelo slipping off the ladder at the Sistine Chapel with one scene to paint. He must have just missed 47...Qc6, as this all occurred after the time control. |
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| Aug-06-08 | | Augalv: Commentary at www.Karjakin.blogspot.com |
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| Aug-06-08 | | kinggambits: After 41 Nd5 cxd5 42 exd5 Now 42..Bxg4. Any thoughts ? After the forced 43 fxg4 It seems to me now that white's d pawns are saddled. Black's position looks interesting (atleast) with a free pass to the f and e pawns. Although I am not sure if this can be converted b'coz there is just one knight capable to guard these pawns. In any case I think this was a very interesting game |
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| Aug-07-08 | | percyblakeney: Entertaining game as so many others involving Radjabov here, but amazing that he got out of the last two with wins in both... <Gelfand’s decisive mistake was 47.d7? where he totally missed his opponent's reply. However, it was already very difficult to find a correct move order that leads to salvation: 47.Rd5! Ne3 (47...Qc6 48.Qb3!) 48.Bxe3 Qc6 49.Qe4 (but not 49.Qb3 fxe3! 50.Bxc6 Rxb3+ 51.axb3 e2!, and the pawn promotes) 49...Rxb5+ 50.Rxb5 Qxb5+ 51.Kc2 fxe3 52.Qf5+ Kg7 53.Qxe6 Qc5+ with perpetual.Radjabov once again demonstrated amazing composure and proved that he's not defeated until the scoresheets are signed!> http://sochi2008.fide.com/round-6-c... |
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| Aug-07-08 | | muradov: Radja strikes again with his undefeatable KID!
I think Gelfand played better than most expected..I liked his king march all the way to the Queen side :) I wonder whether top GMs will eventually give up 1. d4 against Radja, or not..? |
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| Aug-07-08 | | Feast: 34.Rb7 seems like a natural move, the rook exerting a lot of power on the seventh rank. |
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| Aug-07-08 | | arnaud1959: <muradov: I wonder whether top GMs will eventually give up 1. d4 against Radja, or not..?> Or maybe they will try to bring back the Saemisch (f3) variaton. I still beleive that it's not bad but only out of fashion and it could be useful against a player like Radjabov who likes early breakthroughs with f5 or b5. By the way, do you know any KID Saemisch played against Radjabov? |
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Aug-07-08
 | | keypusher: <I wonder whether top GMs will eventually give up 1. d4 against Radja, or not..?> A few years ago, people were saying the King's Indian Defense was practically refuted, and now you think 1. d4 is? No, they won't give up 1. d4 against him. |
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| Aug-07-08 | | muradov: <arnaud1959>
There are 6 games in CG database, Radja winning 3, losing 2 and drawing one. But the games are quite old..and since Radja significantly revived KID in recent years, I dont think Saemisch can cause much of a damage.. |
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| Aug-07-08 | | muradov: <keypusher>
I am not saying 1. d4 is refuted, though I never play 1. d4 on principle. What I am saying is that knowing how well Radjabov plays KID vs. 1. d4, it might serve his opponents well to employ something else.. When Radja is in good form, even Kramnik, who is considered to be the best player with white pieces, could not break his KID (Corus, 2007) |
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| Aug-07-08 | | ughaibu: What principle is that? |
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| Aug-07-08 | | Inf: People too thought that Kramnik's petrov was a solid wall. As long as humans play the game ANYONE is beatable. I find 1.d4 to be more powerful than 1.e4. d4 for attacking players, e4 looks amazing only on Fischer. (jk). |
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Aug-07-08
| | keypusher: <muradov> Here are all of Radja's losses with Black in the database over the past couple of years. As you see, he doesn't lose much, period. But he does get beaten in the King's Indian. If I were a top GM I'd rather try to break down his King's Indian than his Schliemann (unfortunately, though, I don't play 1. d4 either). http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... Gelfand had winning chances yesterday. I doubt he would have done better playing anything else. |
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| Aug-07-08 | | anjyplayer: Horrible oversight and over confidence by white. |
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Aug-07-08
| | keypusher: <anjyplayer: Horrible oversight and over confidence by white.> Not to be rude, but you'd be lucky to last 25 moves against Gelfand, as would I. And yet you can read his mind? Chess is a hard game. Not every error is the result of a moral failing. |
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Aug-14-08
 | | messachess: missing 47...QC6, almost inconceivable at this level. Was there time trouble? |
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