|Aug-07-08|| ||bright1: Why did Black resign? Doesn't 31. ... d3 win?|
|Aug-07-08|| ||just a kid: <Bright1>You are right!Time trouble maybe?|
|Aug-11-08|| ||Cyphelium: <bright1> I don't see any win for black after 31.- d3 32. ♔f1 (threat ♖xd5) 32.- dxc4 (32.- d2 seems worse) 33. ♔e1 ♖e8+ 34. ♔d1 ♖e2|
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This position would need some further analysing, but it seems white could play for a draw with 35. ♖f4 ♖c2 (35.- ♖xb2 36. ♖xc4 ♖xa2 37. ♖d4 looks drawish as well) 36. ♖d4 (trying to rush the kingside pawns seems too slow; black plays the king to c5 and plays ♖xb2 and c3) 36.- ♔b7 37. b3 and white eliminates the passers.
|Aug-13-08|| ||just a kid: Still black shouldn't have resigned.|
|Dec-30-11|| ||bright1: I was browsing thru games that I've commented on and I noticed this one.|
Going over again the line given by <Cyphelium>, I still think Black could have won by 31. ... d3. If white plays 32. Kf1 then d2 can be played. If 33. Ke2 then dxc4 will win. If instead 32. Rxd5 then Rxd5 33. cxd d2 will win.
|Aug-10-12|| ||Cyphelium: <bright1> After 31.- d3 32. ♔f1 d2 33. ♔e2 dxc4 34. ♔d1 black will lose, since white will just pick the pawn up with ♖e5-♖e2. BTW, in the variation 31.- d3 32. ♔f1 dxc4 33. ♔e1 ♖e8+ 34. ♔d1 ♖e2, which led to the diagram in my earlier kibitz, white could play 35. ♖b5+!. Now 35.- ♔c8 36. ♖c5+ followed by 37. ♖xc4 looks bad, but 35.- ♔a8 36. f4 looks lost as well. I suggest that black is actually lost in the final position. :-)|
|Aug-12-12|| ||bright1: <Cyphelium> very good analysis. Okay, I'm convinced that 31. .. d3 does not win and so White is clearly better. Although, if I was playing this game with the Black pieces I would play it out instead of just resigning. You know what they say about Rook endgames .... :)|
|Aug-12-12|| ||perfidious: < Cyphelium: ....in the variation 31.- d3 32. Kf1 dxc4 33. Ke1 Re8+ 34. Kd1 Re2, which led to the diagram in my earlier kibitz, white could play 35. Rb5+!. Now 35.- Kc8 36. Rc5+ followed by 37. Rxc4 looks bad, but 35.- Ka8 36. f4 looks lost as well. I suggest that black is actually lost in the final position.> |
After 35.Rb5+ Kc7 36.Rc5+ Kd6 37.Rxc4 Kd5, Black still has chances to save the game. In my opinion he should not have resigned.
|Aug-13-12|| ||Cyphelium: <both> Yes, resigning would have been premature even without the variation of <perfidious>. I was sort of counting on something like 38. ♖f4 ♖xb2 39. a4 and then pushing the pawns on the kingside. But it's just nonsense after 39.- a5. I agree that black has good saving chances there.|
|Aug-13-12|| ||tpstar: <Cyphelium> Welcome back. =)|
|Aug-14-12|| ||Cyphelium: <tpstar> Thanks. :-)|
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