| Oct-05-08 |
| Kwesi: Destined for future endgame textbooks |
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Oct-05-08
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| whiteshark: Reciprocal zugzwang in the final position: 
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Oct-05-08
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| Peligroso Patzer: < Reciprocal zugzwang in the final position > Indeed, but with only a half-point in the balance. White to move draws. Also noteworthy is the final finesse with 65. Kb5. (65. Kxc5? would only draw.) |
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| Oct-05-08 |
| THE pawn: Ok, I know I saw the exact same ending position elsewhere, but I just cant remember the game. Somebody help! |
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| Oct-05-08 |
| Whitehat1963: Jakovenko's endgame prowess is beginning to get serious notice. |
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| Oct-05-08 |
| dumbgai: Poor Alekseev never managed to get his pieces into play all game. |
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| Oct-05-08 |
| JonathanJ: that's what happens if one plays as shamelessly for a draw as alekseev did! |
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Oct-06-08
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| An Englishman: Good Evening: I'm really impressed by Jakovenko's patience and willingness to probe for dozens of moves on end. |
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Oct-06-08
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| Gregor Samsa Mendel: <THE pawn>--Korchnoi vs Petrosian, 1974 |
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| Oct-06-08 |
| narenillo: <Gregor Samsa Mendel: <THE pawn>--Korchnoi vs Petrosian, 1974> Viewed that game and it also features White being a pawn down at the start of the endgame, but wins it anyway due to superior King position. |
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| Oct-07-08 |
| PolishPentium: Really cannot understand Black's 55th move. Kg5 seems far better than what is played (Kg6). Since Black plays Kg5 anyway on his 56th move, clearly 55 as played is a waste of tempo. So then it seems logical to play 55 Kg5 as suggested. Assuming W still plays 56 Kg3, then 56...e5 (effective because it's coming a move earlier). Later there's also c6 in reserve. At move 55, with an extra pawn, and his King closer to the mass of pawns than his counterpart, there is seemingly no way for Black to lose this. On the other hand, since heretofore PP has hardly distinguished himself with what must appear to you superior folk as lame suggestions, there's obviously a flaw in his analysis. What is he missing?^^ |
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Oct-07-08
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| Eyal: <there's obviously a flaw in his analysis> Indeed... the pawn endgame is lost for Black in any case - 55...Kg5 56.Kg3 e5 57.Kf3 c6 58.Ke4 doesn't help. I'm not sure if there's any way for Black to save even the bishop endgame. Black's extra pawn is no more than symbolic - note that it's doubled, and there's no way to make the Q-side "majority" count. The decisive factor here is White's outside passer on the g-file - and as a demonstration of the force of an outside passer, this endgame is really worthy (as was already noted above) of entering the textbooks. |
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Oct-07-08
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| whiteshark: <PolishPentium> You could 'win' a tempo as you described it. But the decisive question is where is White's King when Black plays ...Kxg4. <Peligroso Patzer: ...<White to move draws.>> Thanks for pointing it out. But then it's only 'simple' zugzwang. |
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Oct-07-08
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| notyetagm: <Kwesi: Destined for future endgame textbooks> There is no stronger endgame player among the new generation than Jakovenko. |
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| Oct-07-08 |
| dumbgai: <notyetagm: There is no stronger endgame player among the new generation than Jakovenko.> Jakovenko is certainly an outstanding endgame player. However, I would also nominate Ponomariov and Wang Yue as two other fine endgame players of the same generation. |
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Oct-07-08
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| notyetagm: <dumbgai: <notyetagm: There is no stronger endgame player among the new generation than Jakovenko.>
Jakovenko is certainly an outstanding endgame player. However, I would also nominate Ponomariov and Wang Yue as two other fine endgame players of the same generation.> Yes, agreed, and Carlsen is also an outstanding endgame player. |
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Oct-07-08
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| Eyal: Btw, anyone who wants to get an idea of how strong an endgame player Jakovenko is, might check the following games: D Jakovenko vs Sutovsky, 2007, D Jakovenko vs Z Rahman, 2007,
D Jakovenko vs Z Almasi, 2007,
D Jakovenko vs I Cheparinov, 2008 |
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Oct-08-08
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| notyetagm: <Eyal: Btw, anyone who wants to get an idea of how strong an endgame player Jakovenko is, might check the following games: D Jakovenko vs Sutovsky, 2007, D Jakovenko vs Z Rahman, 2007, D Jakovenko vs Z Almasi, 2007, D Jakovenko vs I Cheparinov, 2008> Yes, I think Jakovenko's endgame skills are right up there near the Kramnik-Karpov class. |
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| Dec-14-08 |
| tud: Korchnoi was/is also a great endgame player |
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