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Kieran O'Brien vs David Salter
XXIV European Club Cup (2008), Kallithea GRE, rd 4, Oct-20
French Defense: Winawer Variation. Winckelmann-Riemer Gambit (C15)  ·  0-1


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Mar-19-12  LoveThatJoker: This is my 1000th post!

20...Qxh2+ 21. Kxh2 Nxg3+ 22. Qh4 Rxh4+ 23. Kg1 Rh1#


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  FSR: 20...Qxh2+! 21.Kxh2 Nxg3+ yada yada.
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  sleepyirv: Monday
Queen Sac
20... Qxh2+
The only question is if it's mate or just winning the knight 21. Kxh2 Nxg3+
It's mate!
22.Kg1 Rh1#
Mar-19-12  SimonWebbsTiger: @<LTJ>

Happy 1000th! :o)

Mar-19-12  LoveThatJoker: <SimonWebbsTiger> Thank you!


Mar-19-12  Limpin Kt: I think its bit tough for monday but aesthetic. :) 20.... Qh2 21.kh2 Ng3! (the point!) does the trick. <<LTJ> congratulations on 1k post. :)good day!>
Mar-19-12  mohannagappan: 20 ...Qxh2+ 21 Kxh2 Nxg3+ 22 Qh4 Rxh4+ 23 Kg1 Rh1#
Mar-19-12  SamAtoms1980: Salter salted away another game with 20....Qxh2+ 21.Kxh2 Nxg3+ 22.Kg1 Rh1#.
Mar-19-12  LoveThatJoker: <Limpin Kt> Thank you!



Mar-19-12  rilkefan: Slightly difficult for a Monday I guess. But the real puzzle is how white ended up facing both rooks and a queen and a knight on the g and h files. Hmm, ok, so white took on h6 - maybe this game doesn't belong in the database?
Mar-19-12  M.Hassan: "Very Easy" Black to play 20....?
Black is 2 pawns down.
21.Kxh2 Nxg3+
22.Kg1 Rh1#
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  FabrikaLaHun: Congrats <LTJ> on 1000 posts.

Got this one today. Just had to think a bit about the move order.

Anyone else think it was a bit suicidal for white to castle king's side on move 18 with both rooks staring straight down 2 semi-open files?

Then again, checked the archives and it looks like Mr. O'B didn't have a great tournament here.

Mar-19-12  LoveThatJoker: <FabrikaLaHun> Thank you very much!


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  lost in space: 20...Qxh2+ 21. Kxh2 Nxg3+ 22. Kg1 Rh1#

I love Mondays!

Mar-19-12  rilkefan: So rather to my surprise stockfish says that white was ok as late as move 18, since 19.Nxh5 was equal (Rfd1/Bf1). 15.Be3 instead of the dreaded Qxh6 left white with an advantage of half a pawn. As I expected, 14.Be2 was significantly better than Bc4, though to my surprise evaluating at 1.3. That advantage arose from black's 12th, where ...h6 was a small-medium advantage for white, and black's 9th, where ...c5 (Qc7/Qc6) is equal.

From the Be3 line above, just looking along the main line and checking a bit as I go:

15. Be3 Rg4 16. Qh3 Rg6 17. O-O Nd5 18. Bd2 N7f6 19. a4 Qc7 20. a5 c5 21. axb6 axb6 22.Ba6 Bxa6 23.Rxa6 and, well, it's a game, and white's apparently doing somewhat better (+0.6) as the h pawn falls and black's other pawns are a bit weak.

Mar-19-12  consul: Certainly 18. 0-0 wasn't a wise choice...
Mar-19-12  mriddle: I looked at another line, which is less forcing than the correct answer, but seems to work as far as I can tell:

20. ... Nf4
21. h3 Nxh3+
22. gxh3 Qxe4
winning queen with threat of more

or 22. Kh2 (or Kh1) Nf4+
23. Kg1 Qh2#

The only other options for white in move 21 to avoid immediate mate seem to involve giving up a piece for no gain. Any

Mar-19-12  mriddle: oops, posted before finishing my sentence, which was supposed to be: anyone see something I'm missing?
Mar-19-12  Madman99X: I like Mondays. They make me feel Good. 20... Qxh2+ 21. Kxh2 Nxg3+ 22. Qh7 (I like spite interpositions.) Rxh7+ 23. Kg1 Rh1#
Mar-19-12  VincentL: "Very Easy".

Somewhat unusual mate.

20.....Qxh2+ 21. Kxh2 Nxg3+ 22. Qh4/Qh7 Rxh4+/Rxh7+ 23. Kg1 Rh1#

Mar-19-12  newzild: MONDAY: 1.45 - 1.46

Took me a minute to get this - first candidates were 20...Nxg3, 20...Qxe4 and 20...Qxg3.

21. Kxh2 Nxg3+
22. Qh4 Rxh4+
23. Kg1 Rh1#

Mar-19-12  sevenseaman: Aaargh! What infernal error I was on the verge of making. For over to minutes I thought 'twas White on move, and the confounded 'Q sac' not working! (I even reverified the calendar, ha ha)!

20...Qxh2+ 21. Kxh2 Nxg3+ 22. Qh4 Rxh4+ 23. Kg1 Rh1#

Mar-19-12  M.Hassan: White could have played and possibly had won had he not played 20.Qxe4 as below:

20.h3 e3
21.fxe3 Qxg3
22.Qxg3 Rxg3
23.Rxf7 Rxe3
24.Raf1 e5
25.Rf8+ Rxf8
26.Rxf8+ Kc7
27.dxe5 Rxe5
28.Rf7+ Kc8
29.Kh2 Re4
30.Bd3 Ra4
31.c4 Rxa3
32.g4 Ra5
33.Bf5+ Kb8
White is now ahead material wise except that he has two doubled pawns

There is very much possibility of one h pawn promotion or cause heavy casualty for Black

Mar-19-12  BadKnight: Monday, so lets try queensac. 1...Qxh2+ 2.Kxh2 Nxg3+ 3.Kg1 Rh1#.
Mar-19-12  mriddle: I found one thing I missed from my earlier post. I had suggested:

20. ... Nf4
21. h3 Nxh3+
22. gxh3 Qxe4
winning queen with threat of more

or 22. Kh2 (or Kh1) Nf4+
23. Kg1 Qh2#

but white could also play:

20. ... Nf4
21. f3 Qxh2+
22. Kf2 Qxg3+

though black still wins at least a night and a couple pawns

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