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NN vs Judy
"Punchin' Judy" (game of the day Sep-03-2017)
Casual (1851), England
Scotch Game: Scotch Gambit. Saratt Variation (C44)  ·  0-1
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Nov-01-08  Karpova: After 15....Qe4 White answered 16.Nd2 [see diagram]


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Judy: <Upon this move at the conclusion of the game, Mr. Amateur, who frequently makes a blunder just when he ought to be doubly careful, remembered that for his sixteenth move, he ought to have played B. to Q. second [Bd2], instead of the Kt., we therefore resumed the game from that point, and proceeded as follows [i. e. with 16.Bd2 as in the game score; karpova].>

In case of 16.Nd2 the game would have proceeded: <16...Qe1+ 17.Rf1 Qe3+ 18.Rf2 Ng4 19.Ne4 Qe1+ 20.Rf1 Qxe4 21.Rf3 Qe1+ 22.Rf1 Qe2 23.Rf3 Bxf3 24.gxf3 Qf2+ 25.K moves Q mates.>

From: "Judy, a Forgotten Genius of the 1850s" by Rod Edwards - http://www.chesscafe.com/text/skitt...

Nov-03-08  edo.chess: <In case of 16.Nd2 the game would have proceeded:> In fact, the game DID originally proceed as indicated following 16.Nd2.
Sep-03-17
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  Phony Benoni: In this case, it's Judy on the offensive against Our Favorite Punching Bag.
Sep-03-17
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  al wazir: 24...Qd1+ also wins: 25. Kf2 Bxc4 26. Qxc4 Qxd2+. Or 25. Qf1 Qxf1+ 26. Kxf1 Bxc4+.
Sep-03-17
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  Phony Benoni: <al-wazir> I think you're right 24...Qd1+ would be much better for Black if White fell for 25.Kf2 Bxc4 26.Qxc4 Ne4#, or 26.Qxd4 Qf1+ 27.Ke3 Qe2#. In this line, it looks lie White would have to give up his queen to survive.

But 25.Qf1 Qxf1+ 26.Kxf1 Bxcr+ would be essentially the same as the game materially but Black seems to have a stronger initiate with the threat of ...Ne4. Plus two extra pieces,of course.

But I like the humor of 24...Bxc4, protecting the Black queen through the body of the White queen.

I get the feeling White thought they could take liberties with the opponent. Lesson probably not learned.

Sep-03-17
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: My second accepted pun!
Sep-03-17
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  HeMateMe: you sly wordsmith, you!
Sep-03-17
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  offramp: A very good pun! An exciting game as well.
Sep-03-17  scormus: That's the way to do it!
Sep-03-17  morfishine: I guess the game title refers to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyL...

Which still leaves the world shaking their collective heads asking: "Ok, its a sitcom, but whats the referenced pun?"

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Sep-03-17  ughaibu: A sitcom?!!??? https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=p... And in the game it is Judy doing the punching, hence punching Judy.
Sep-03-17  morfishine: <ughaibu> What I pulled off "Google" was some sillY puppeteer beating himself up...I guess he thought it was funny

We still want to know what the pun is since AS USUAL, there is no connecting reference to chess, this chess game, this chess opening, this chess venue, the chess players, the geographic location, etc.

Its just another shallow tie into this players name, which IS NOT A PUN

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Sep-03-17
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  An Englishman: Good Morning: <morfishine>, this might help: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punch....
Sep-03-17
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  Annie K.: <An Englishman> keep'em coming, cute idea. :)
Sep-03-17  Al2009: Who cares to see a GM winning a NN in a casual game? Why don't you show GM losing games against low-rated players? Such as this:

Capablanca vs Kevitz, 1924

or this:
H Lieb vs Spassky, 1979

9...Nxh2??????????????????????????????????????????????????????

ah ah ah...Spassky!

Sep-03-17  morfishine: <An Englishman> Thanks, I guess

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Sep-03-17  ninja warrior: I like the wordplay here morphishine... where is it spelled out that it's supposed to be a pun? Keep chasing down windmills man nobody cares.
Sep-03-17
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  ChessHigherCat: Punchin' Judy is right, she must have at least one boxing kangaroo in her bloodline! It would have been even better if she had sacc'ed the queen though, if you can call a winning exchange a "sacrifice":

20..Qxe1+ 21. Bxe1 Bxf3 22. Nxd6 cxd6 23. Bf2 Bd5

Sep-03-17  ughaibu: Why is "punchin' Judy" not a pun on Punch 'n' Judy?
Sep-03-17
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  ChessHigherCat: <ughaibu: Why is "punchin' Judy" not a pun on Punch 'n' Judy?>

Because people insist on their own arbitrary definitions of "pun", which is actually defined very broadly:

<pun
pən/
noun
noun: pun; plural noun: puns

1.
a joke exploiting the different possible meanings of a word or the fact that there are words that sound alike but have different meanings. "the pigs were a squeal (if you'll forgive the pun)" synonyms: play on words, wordplay, double entendre, innuendo, witticism, quip, bon mot ""you can make your own antifreeze by stealing her blanket" is a pun guaranteed to get some groans">

I like the last example, BTW :-)

Sep-03-17  morfishine: Thank you <ChessHigherCat> for the explanation and the examples
Sep-05-17
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  kevin86: White attacked first- black attacked last...and won.
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