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Lembit Oll vs Tal Shaked
New York Open 1997  ·  King's Indian Defense: Fianchetto Variation. Double Fianchetto Attack (E64)  ·  1-0


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Nov-06-08   Ladolcevita: <woody wood pusher> i think yesterday's puzzle is rather easy,and virtually easier than today's,because today we have more pieces and more complicated lines,while yesterday's is more obvious when there are only a few pieces in the sight.
Nov-06-08
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  gawain: <Woody Wood Pusher> Thanks, you made me laugh out loud. That is some consolation.
Nov-06-08
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  Geronimo: This is a nice puzzle for Thursday. The first move is almost intuitive, the follow through is fairly clear given the availability of d8 for the Queen. But what to do after 33...Qe8? (Full disclosure, that's as far as I got, but I just knew that I was on the right track...). I'd say no 1/2 point for me, as I didn't find 34.Bg8+, although I was looking for ways to attack the pawn on e5. Nice.

On another note, warm greetings to everybody from festive Nairobi. Kenya declared today a holiday. People have been celebrating wildly. Like or hate the result, the election in U.S. has had an impact all over the world....

Nov-06-08
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  agb2002: The white queen can invade Black’s back rank and pose serious threats against the king by sacrificing the exchange. 32.Rxf6 Rxf6 33.Qd8:

A) 33... Re8 34.Qxf6 winning.

B) 33... Rg7 34.Bg8+ Kh8 35.Bf7+ Kh7 36.Bxh5 winning.

C) 33... Qe8 34.Bg8+ Kh8 35.Bxe5

C.1) 35... Qxd8 36.Bxf6+ Rg7 37.Bxg7+ Kxg8 38.Bf6+ winning.

C.2) 35... Rxe5 36.Qxf6 mate.

Time to post and check.

Nov-06-08
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  kevin86: The black pieces are as overworked as a one-armed paper hanger with poison ivy.

The position was about to collapse when white attacked. The final result will be a quick ending for black.

Here is the irony:If 35 ...Qxd8 36 Bxf6# and black rook stops his own queen from capturing at f6.

AND...35...Rxe5 36 Qxf6#,the same rook has opened the door for white's queen to mate

Nov-06-08
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  YouRang: Surveying this position, it looks like black's weak spot is the back rank -- with g8 in particular, where the idea of Bg8+ is of interest.

The back rank is defended only by the rook at f8, so dislodging this rook seems to be a decent idea. Is there a way?

Of course! That rook is also providing the only defense for the bishop at f6, and so 32.Rxf6 Rxf6 is an obvious try, and it comes with a couple nice side benefits:

[1] It removes a defender of Pe5 -- which is blocking our DSB from it's attack on h8 square (and this will be important if Bg8+ Kh8 occurs).

[2] It vacates the d-file, clearing the way for our queen to hit the back rank at d8. This is looking good. :-)

The opportunity to get my queen into the attack seems like the top priority, so 33.Qd8 it is, threatening 34.Qg8#. Here, I expect 33...Qe8 (activating the Q defensively seems better than 33...Re8). But either way, that original Bg8+ idea finally bears fruit!

34.Bg8+ Kh8 (forced and K is immobilized) 35.Bxe5 (threat: Bxf6#, giving black no time to take our Q). Now white owns the dark squares, including, shortly, the one that the black king sits on. There's not much else except: 35...Rxe5 36.Qxf6# or 35...Qxd8 36.Bxf6# or 35...Qxg8 36.Qxg8#.

Nov-06-08
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  YouRang: <chrisowen: Tal got shaked rattled and rOll'd.>

Of course, this is just A Tal -- it's not THE Tal at all.

Nov-06-08
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  chrisowen: Good heavens - A Tal Shaked but not stirred then. I thought of knew it wasnt not suprisingly, but i'll keep an eye out for the real culprit in the future!
Nov-06-08   AlaskaksalA: Again in the main line, after 35...Qxd8, 36 Bxf6+ is not mate. 36...Rg7 gets in the way, but to no avail of course - but it does remove the mate threats. 37. Bxg7 Kxg8 then a windmill for the queen 38. Bf6+ Black is up R+P, but no mate yet!
Nov-06-08   njchess: This was a fun puzzle. I love the half open g-file trapping black's king and creating all sorts of checking/mating opportunities.

32. Rxf6 Rxf6 seemed natural enough. But initially, I hesitated because I was having difficulty figuring out how, or if, I could get white's queen into the attack, which seemed to me to be the only adequate compensation for such a sacrifice. I figured that Qd8 would be met with Qe8. Then, I realized just how powerful a move 31. Bc4 was.

33. Qd8 Qe8 34. Bg8+ Kh8 followed in my mind. Since black's king was on h8, and I looked to my dark squared bishop on the a1-h8 diagonal. I hadn't yet involved him in the attack and it seemed natural to try and get him in on the action. I realized that, coupled with my queen on d8, that the pawn on e5 could be taken without being recaptured. Moreover, this combination created an overwhelming attack. In fact, 35. Bxe5 produced only one non mating line, Qxd8 and that left black in a hopeless endgame.

Fun puzzle. I think black went wrong on 15. ... f5. The position was essentially even up to that point. Given how many pieces were still on the board, especially the queens, it seemed to me to be unwise and premature to open the king side to attack. White has two bishops, a knight, a rook and four pawns on the king side, as well as control of the c1-h6 diagonal. Don't know exactly what black was thinking, but white was well positioned to weather the storm.

Nov-06-08
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  beenthere240: <TheaN> I suppose you're talking about 33. Rxh6+ and 34. Rh3 leaving black in a hopeless mess.
Nov-06-08   yoozum: I figured out the first few moves without much trouble, though I did not anticipate ...Qe8 and would have been unsure how to respond effectively.
Nov-06-08   fouard: Looking at the target of g8 with the Bishop, and d8 for the Queen, I want to try 32. Rxf6. Black can't do anything but recapture that I can see, and after 32...Rxf6, 33. Bg8+ OR Qd8 both look unstoppable.
Nov-06-08
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  johnlspouge: Thursday (Medium)

Oll vs Shaked, 1997 (32.?)

White to play and win.

Material: Even. The Black Kh7 has 1 legal move. The White battery Qd2 and Rd6 control the d-file. In addition, Rd6 attacks Bf6, burdening Rf8. The White Rg3 also has an open file, restricting the Black Kh7 to the edge of the board. With Rg3, the White Bc4 creates invasion possibilities at g8, defended also by the overburdened Rf8. The other White Bc3 attacks Pe5 and indirectly, Bf6 behind. The observations suggest that the attack should involve capture of Bf6, to deflect Rf8 from protection of g8 and promote invasion by Rg3 and Bc4. The Qd2 and Bc3 require activation.

Candidates (32.): Rxf6, e4

32.Rxf6 Rxf6 [else, drop a B]

Here I went for 33.Bg8+, because I could see no way to beat 33.Qd8 Qe8.

Nov-06-08
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  TheaN: <beenthere240: <TheaN> I suppose you're talking about 33. Rxh6+ and 34. Rh3 leaving black in a hopeless mess.>

Exactly. Now that I look back at it, Rxh3 works just as fine but ONLY because Ph6 is attacked twice after the Queen moves.

/C\
<32.Rxf6 Bxh3? 33.Rxh6†! K/Qxh6 34.Rxh3 > where the 2R cannot improve against the 2B + Q.

However, <32.Rxf6 Bxh3? 33.Rxh3 Qg5 34.Rhxh6† Kg7 35.Rhg6† > wins the exact same material with the White initiative, and White probably has better in the above line.

I like my variation more though because it is another tactic :).

Nov-06-08   DarthStapler: I got the first 3 moves
Nov-06-08   Oliveira: <LaFreaK>

The "Indian Theme"!


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1.g8=N!!, b5; 2.Ne7, Kb4; 3.Nc6++


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Nov-06-08   maxi: Stirred Oll, not Shaked! I love this combination!
Nov-06-08
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  BadKnight: yep, took only couple of minutes to solve it!
Nov-06-08   crwynn: I missed 38.Bf6, I thought this line was just an opp-colored bishops ending; I turned to 33.Be5 instead, since 33...Re5? 34.Qd8 Rg6 35.Qc7+ should win easily, but 33...Rf8 leaves White with "nothing" from a puzzle-solving perspective although I think he has more than enough for the Exchange.
Nov-07-08   maxi: It's a terrible loss, poor Oll; I hope God grants him peace.
Nov-07-08
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  chancho: <There are rumors that his tragic decision was ignited by some financial difficulties, but those who knew him better doubt this very much, pointing out that his recent divorce and separation from his two sons is more likely to be the cause.>

http://www.gtryfon.demon.co.uk/bcc/...

Nov-07-08   maxi: <chancho> I had never paid attention to him, but when I saw this game (yesterday's puzzle here) I was very impressed. I realized I was in the presence of a great player. Today I was going again over the game and read he was already dead. He was only 33 when he took his own life.
Dec-13-08   thebribri8: How has this not been a game of the day yet? His name is "Shaked" for crying out loud!
Mar-01-09   WhiteRook48: Tal has not been known to be shaked
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