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Lembit Antsovich Oll vs Tal Shaked
"Best of Oll" (game of the day Aug-15-2011)
New York Open (1997), New York, NY USA, rd 2
King's Indian Defense: Fianchetto Variation. Double Fianchetto Attack (E64)  ·  1-0
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Aug-15-11  naruto00122: 33.Bg8+ Kh8 34.Bxe5 Rxe5 35.Qd8 works too

(final position)


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followed by 35...Qxh3 36.Rxh3 Kg7 37.Qc7+ Kxg8 38.Qxe5 Bxh3 39.Qxf6

Aug-15-11  nolanryan: this is difficult for a monday level pun.. any help?
May-02-15  diagonalley: fabulous vision by oll!
May-02-15  stst: Try this line before bed:

32.Bxe5 Rxe5
33.Rxf6 Rxf6
34.Bg8+ Kh8
35.Qd8 Re8
36.Qf6#

Of course other defense variations exist,... will check again later ("tomorrow"... )

May-02-15
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  agb2002: The material identical.

The white queen can invade the black field with 32.Rxf6 Rxf6 33.Qd8:

A) 33... Qe8 34.Bg8+ Kh8 (34... Qxg8 35.Qxg8#) 35.Bxe5

A.1) 35... Qxd8 36.Bxf6+ Rg7 37.Bxg7+ Kxg8 38.Bf6+ followed by 39.Bxd8 + - [R].

A.2) 35... Rxe5 36.Qxf6#.

A.3) 35... Qf8 36.Qxf8 wins.

A.4) 35... Re6 36.Qxe8 Rxe8 37.Bxf6#.

B) 33... Re8 34.Qxf6 + - [B].

C) 33... Be6 34.Bxf6 Rxe6 35.Qg8#.

D) 33... Rg7 34.Bg8+ (34.Qxf6 Rxg3 35.fxg3 Qxh3+ 36.Kg1 Qg2#) 34... Kh8 35.Bf7+ wins the queen.

E) 33... Bxh3 34.Rxh6+ followed by 35.Rxh3 wins the queen.

May-02-15
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  morfishine: I had <32.Rxf6> followed by 32...Rxf6 33.Bg8+ Kh8 34.Qd8 Qe8 <35.Bxe5> The Bishop cannot be taken due to 36.Qxf6+; and 35...Qxd8 is met by 36.Bxf6+

*****
No time now to check if move-order makes a difference

*****

May-02-15
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  gofer: Black has already lost control of the a2-g8 diagonal and the g file, so white just needs to control the a1-h8 diagonal and its all over. The start to that plan is getting rid of the main able defender of that diagonal, the DSB.

<32 Rxf6 ...>

If black accepts its all over very quickly!

32 ... Rxf6
33 Qd8 Qe8
34 Bg8+ Kh8
35 Bxe5! ...

35 ... Qxd8
36 Bxf6+ Rg7
37 Bxg7+ Kxg8
38 Bf6+

So black must refuse...

32 ... Rg7
33 Rxf5

32 ... Bxh3
33 Rxh6+! Kxh6/Qxh6
34 Rxh3

I really don't see how to refuse...

~~~

Yep...

May-02-15  ndg2: Didn't see the last move, got the other moves right. Deflection of Re7, so the queen can capture Rf6, nice! Close but no cigar :-)
May-02-15  Edeltalent: 32.? White to play

A sharp position in which both kings look vulnerable. White controls both open files, which should count for something, but Black's possible counter-play with Bh4 looks scary. 32.Rxf6 not only eliminates this piece, but also allows White to infiltrate with his Queen.

After 32...Rxf6 33.Qd8, Qg8# is a major threat, and also Black's rooks are hanging in the air. 33...Re8 is impossible due to 34.Qxf6. A little trap is 33...Rg7; the routine 34.Qxf6 now would result in a rude awakening after 34...Rxg3, but instead 34.Rxg7+ is mate in two.

The only other defense I can see is 33...Qe8, but now the white bishops make their presence felt: 34.Bg8+ Kh8 35.Bxe5 and Black's position crumbles. As 35...Rxe5 36.Qxf6# is mate, so the rest seems forced: 35...Qxd8 36.Bxf6+ Rg7 37.Bxg7+ Kxg8 38.Bf6+, and after the dust has settled, White remains a rook up.

The desperate try 32...Bxh3 33.Rxh3 Qg4 can surely be refuted in many ways, a lazy one being 34.Rhxh6+ Kg7 35.Rfg6+.

May-02-15
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  Penguincw: Boy that escalated quickly.

I got the 2 easiest plies: 32.Rxf6 Rxf6.

May-02-15
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  whiteshark: <morfishine: I had <32.Rxf6> followed by 32...Rxf6 33.Bg8+ Kh8 34.Qd8 Qe8 <35.Bxe5>> Me, too. But I've to admit that I haven't seen/calculated all this weird ...Qxh3+ stuff.
May-02-15  Tigercock: A pretty easy Saturday puzzle.
May-02-15  gokusano: What easy puzzle? I've turned on mr. fritz just to know the answer.
May-02-15  scormus: Very attractive finish.

When I first looked I thought B's position looked secure, but it is like one of those wooden puzzles, prod here, pull there and the structure comes apart.

32 Rxf6 suggests itself, then like quite a few here I went with 33 Bg8+ and 34 Bxe5 as follow up. As I played it through I thought I'd missed the best line, but maybe that's at least as good.

May-02-15
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  Sally Simpson: Glad Tigercock found it easy. (maybe he remembered it...see below)

I toiled at first getting caught in a few good looking lines (that possibly still win) to mislead you.

Hints of an irregular mating pattern tucked up in there.


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(also hints that I'm finally going insane. Usually I can post a blind fen without too much bother. That simple one took 3 attempts and had people wondering why I'm shouting at my screen. [I was trying to post a 9 rank diagram.])

Such a shame about Lembit Oll passing away.

Read some other posts.

I see this puzzle has been used on a Monday and a Thursday. So keep this one stored lads it's bound to crop up again on another day of the week.

May-02-15  dfcx: I will go with
32.Rxf6 Rxf6 33.Bg8+ Kh8 34.Bxe5! Rxe5 35.Qd8 threatens Bf7+ and Qxf6+.


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Black can avoid mate with
35...Qxh3+ 36.Rxh3 Kg7 (Bxh3? 37.Bf7+)

May-02-15  cimatar: @dfcx in your move order something is flawed... there is a better defense than 35..Qxh3, better is ..Rg6, when suddenly it looks like black escapes with a free piece and a very very slim drawing chances in the offing..'coz now after 36.Bf7+ choices are (1)Kg7 37. Qg8+ Kf6 38.Qf8 trapping the king and threatening the queen, but black can try Rxg3 38.Bxh5+ Kg5 etc...or (2)36..Kh7 37 Rxg6 Qxg6 Bxg6 Kxg6 etc..either way IMO black is still losing with B+R vs Q endgame, but definitely can avoid being mated easily!
May-02-15
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  morfishine: <whiteshark> Its just as good, thanks for looking! The point is the White Queen gets to <d8> before playing Bxe5; It doesn't matter if White plays Bg8+ before Qd8 or vice versa

<cimatar> Your line Is counter-flawed to <dfcx>'s "flawed" line, since 37.Qf8 loses the Queen to 37...Kxf8

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May-02-15  cimatar: @dcfx but after Rg6 36. Bc4+ (not Bf7) then it will be mate :)
May-02-15  cimatar: @morfishine I forgot to add the check first I edit my post already
May-02-15
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  kevin86: The queen and her bishops take it all.
May-02-15  Nick46: It's fair to say today: the king is cornered.
May-02-15  Tiggler: I saw all the moves, but was bewildered by the options of which order to play them in, after of course Rxf6. I am glad to see that others think there are alternative move orders that work, but I don't see that anyone has done a comprehensive analysis. Too much for me.
May-02-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  patzer2: Got the first three moves of today's Saturday combination with <32. Rxf6 Rxf6!! 33. Qd8 Qe8 34. Bg8+ Kh8>, but missed the critical fourth move <35. Bxe5!> threatening mate or decisive win of material.

Running it through Fritz, the computer evaluations indicate all of the alternative move sequences are far weaker than the game continuation.

Earlier in the game, instead of the natural looking <16...Be6>, Fritz gives the strange equalizing move 16...Bf8 =.

The final decisive mistake appears to be <28...f3?> Instead, 28...Kh7 29. Bf1 gives Black a fighting chance.

May-02-15  M.Hassan: "Difficult"
White to play 32.?
Material equal.

32.Rxf6 Rxf6
33.Qd8 Qe8
34.Bg8+ Kh8
After this move, I thought about 35.Rxe5 but thought that the Bishop will be taken!!!whereas its taking opens the road for the Queen to mate on f6. I give 85% credit to myself.

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