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|Dec-04-08|| ||TrueBlue: way too easy, Monday puzzle was much more difficult|
|Dec-04-08|| ||dzechiel: <goldfarbdj: Why are people going for 31. ... Ng7 32. Rxf7, when 32. Qxf7+ Kh8 33. Qf8+ Qxf8 34. Rxf8 is mate?>|
Good catch, I wish I had seen it.
|Dec-04-08|| ||kevin86: Chutzpah! White sacs the queen twice-yet ends with a material advantage!|
|Dec-04-08|| ||karoaper: Yeah, I agree with others. The two lined up rooks, and the blocked black queen instantly spell troubles for the black king once the blockage on f7 is removed.|
|Dec-04-08|| ||DarthStapler: I got the first move|
|Dec-04-08|| ||SufferingBruin: <eblunt><quandide> White has threats all over the board, not least of which is Be4. If I'm black, I'm laying the monarch on its side. |
I like how white was able to keep one of the black knights on the a-file from the 11th move onward.
|Dec-04-08|| ||YouRang: This is really of a series of two back-to-back puzzles. I say this because you don't have to see the 2nd part to know that the first part is worthwhile.|
First puzzle: Easy - just notice that a free pawn is stolen in broad daylight with 31.Qxg6+. Clearly the Q can't be taken or the rooks come down with mate-in-2. Removing this key defensive pawn with check is already a huge advantage for white.
Second puzzle: A little harder, because black has a few choices. Fortunately, most of them are obviously bad. Either king move or a knight move die shortly after 32.Rxf7.
This leaves 31...Rg7. Now this also dies after 32.Rxf7, but it's not as obvious: 32...Rxg6 33.Rf8+ Kh7 (33...Kg7? 34.R1f7#) 34.R1f7 Ng7 (34...Rg7? 35.Be4#) 35.Rxd8
|Dec-04-08|| ||khursh: This is the first time could identify the winning sacrifice of 31. Qxg6+ easily, with several moves afterwards, which are forced. Probably some pattern recognition or lack of alternatives helped me. may be too easy for Thursday ?|
PS I was alywas trying to solve puzzles but this is first time posting here. What is the purpose of reflecting thoughts/solutions here? Tradition?
|Dec-04-08|| ||patzer of patzers: to <KKW>, <al wazir>, and anyone else who will listen...if 31.Rxf7 Rxf7 32.Qxg6+ Rg7 what happens if 33.Qh6?|
|Dec-04-08|| ||Once: <khursh: What is the purpose of reflecting thoughts/solutions here? Tradition?>|
To help each other to learn. Someone else's thinking process may help you to identify patterns that you would otherwise have missed.
|Dec-04-08|| ||patzer of patzers: I guess 33...Qxg5 looks dangerous...|
|Dec-04-08|| ||khursh: <Once:> Thanks, just wondered when people repeat same lines over and over.|
|Dec-04-08|| ||Once: <khursh> The repetition? Well, there are several reasons for that.|
Some people like to post "blind" - putting down their thoughts without reading the other kibitzes first. It's a way of testing yourself against the puzzle. There's some risk involved ... you might get it wrong!
Others like to prove that they solved the puzzle. Just saying "got it" isn't enough for these folks - they like to demonstrate that they saw it all. And who can blame them? It's a great feeling when you work out the solution, especially if it's your first ever Thursday/ Friday/ whatever.
Then we have what I like to call the <Dzechiel> effect. Dave's posts are normally so complete and accurate that he often doesn't leave the rest of us much to say.
And then there's a bunch of us who will only post if we have something new to say.
Whatever floats your boat. It's all good - CG.com is a broad enough churchto accomodate all us, whatever our interests in this game.
|Dec-04-08|| ||johnlspouge: < <Once> wrote: [snip] It's all good - CG.com is a broad enough church to accommodate all of us, whatever our interests in this game. >|
Amen. Nicely said, as usual, <Once> :)
|Dec-04-08|| ||garrido: yes.It is very instructive this game
|Dec-04-08|| ||garrido: you means Ch5+ continued
|Dec-04-08|| ||think: Why didn't White end with 36. Ne4 (threatening Nf6+) or Be4? How is d6 better?|
|Dec-04-08|| ||ZUGZWANG67: May I ask a questions to you, guys ? Well, maybe some of you would find this lookin a bit silly. But when solving these puzzles, do you leave the board as it appears in the position, or do you actually play through the variations ? In other words, do you touch the pieces ?|
|Dec-04-08|| ||DruBan: Why not 31.Rxf7 Rxf7 32.Qxg6+ Kh8 33.Rxf7 Ng7 34.Qxg7++? What did I miss here? (32...Kf8 33.Rxf7++ and some other shuffling with the Black queen and the knight but this seems pretty shortand to the point) BTw does anyone know what the kiev defense might be?|
|Dec-04-08|| ||johnlspouge: < <ZUGZWANG67> wrote: [snip] But when solving these puzzles, do you leave the board as it appears in the position, or do you actually play through the variations ? In other words, do you touch the pieces ? >|
Some do, some don't. It's all up to you :)
|Dec-04-08|| ||DruBan: <Lol> My very first post here and I overlooked the two earlier pages of comments! Sorry about the repetition.|
|Dec-04-08|| ||k.praneeth surya: This is verygood combination i have done it in 9 seconds 31.Qg6! Rg7 32.rg7 rf7! 33.rg6 kh7 34.r1f7 ng7 35.rd8resign 33...kg7 34.r1f7# it is very nice combination ok well done maghami ok bye..........|
|Dec-04-08|| ||jeeky1996: Quite easy, got the first move within a sec (Literally!!!).|
Whatever line that Black chooses, it leads to forced mate, if I'm correct.
|Feb-11-13|| ||FSR: Ghaem On.|
|Jan-17-19|| ||Breunor: Second comment on page 1 asks where did black go wrong? Speculation was Rb2.|
Actually, it seems to be a move earlier, the problem appears to be 26 e5.
After 26 Rfc1, If black play Rh4 he is fine:
1) +0.11 (20 ply) 26...Rh4 27.dxe6 Bxe6 28.Bd5 Bxd5 29.Nxd5 Nc6 30.Rh2 Rxh2 31.Kxh2 Ne7 32.Ne4 Nxd5 33.Qxd5 Rb2 34.Kg3 Qe7 35.Qd3 Rxa2 36.Rh1 Qe6 37.Bc3 Ra3 38.Kf3
After e5, though, his position is bad - I guess he just makes it too easy for white to open the f file with his rooks set to kill.
1) +1.34 (21 ply) 27.Nce2 exf4 28.exf4 Rb2 29.Bxa5 Qxa5 30.f5 Qd2 31.Qxd2 Rxd2 32.fxg6 fxg6 33.Be4 Rh3 34.Bxg6 Bd4 35.Nxd4 Rxg3+ 36.Kh2 Rxf2+ 37.Rxf2 Rxg5 38.Bxe8 Bxe8 39.Nf5 Bg6 40.Nxd6 Bd3 41.Rf3 Rg6 42.Rxd3 Rxd6
So this starts the trouble, but the game isn't over yet.
The game is irredeemable after 28 Rxa2?
After 28 Bc3, best is e4:
1) +1.60 (19 ply) 28...e4 29.Bxe4 Bxc3 30.Qxc3 Rb4 31.Bd3 Bh3 32.Rb1 Rxb1+ 33.Bxb1 Bg4 34.Rh2 Rxh2 35.Kxh2 Nb7 36.Kg2 Qd7 37.Kf2 Bxe2 38.Nxe2 Qg4 39.Be4 a5 40.Kf1 a4 41.Bg2
Not great, but after Rxa2, its real bad:
1) +3.89 (21 ply) 29.fxe5 Qxg5 30.e6 fxe6 31.dxe6 Bxe6 32.Qe4 Nc7 33.Qb1 Ne8 34.Qxa2 Bxc3 35.Rf8+ Kg7 36.Rxe8 Bxc4 37.Qa3 Be5 38.Qxa5 Bxe2 39.Rxe5 dxe5 40.Nxe2 Qxe3+ 41.Rf2 Rh5 42.Qc3 Qxc3 43.Nxc3 Rf5 44.Ne4 Rxf2 45.Kxf2
Be careful of GM's when offering pawns .....
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