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Warren Elliott vs Evgenij Ermenkov
2008 Olympiad 2008  ·  Caro-Kann Defense: General (B10)  ·  1-0


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Kibitzer's Corner
Nov-30-08
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  acirce: From comments in the http://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt... thread:

<Ermenkov was able to play 13 moves in round 11 because he was not forfeited at first - the arbiter told the opponent to play. The Jamaicans then appealed to the chief arbiter Ignatius Leong who overruled the match arbiter and declared a forfeit.> (Tassie Devil)

<It's strange you mention Ermenkov. He was the victim of a forfeit rule when he was not at the board against Jamaica. According to Ian Rogers, Ermenkov told him that he arrived at the board and discovered he did not have a pen. When he returned 30 seconds later, he had forfeited.

I personally believe details are missing from Ermenkov and perhaps it was longer than 30 seconds, but he went to the arbiter who stated that Ermenkov should play. Did he greet Warren Elliott of Jamaica at the board? Did he take his seat? Apparently none of these issues mattered. The arbiter perhaps thought it was a stupid rule and when told that Ermenkov was at the board earlier, he awarded him a chance to play.

In fact, I took a picture and Ermenkov had played 1...c6 in response to 1.e4. The Jamaican's went to the Senior Arbiter who only asked if Ermenkov was at the board at the start of the game. The answer was no so a forfeit was awarded.> (Daaim Shabazz)

Sep-13-09
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  Domdaniel: So when, exactly, is the start of a game? Arbiters seem to have solved a problem that has puzzled physicists for centuries -- the problem of unambiguously defining a precise point in time. A perfectly punctilious point, neither smeared across the gap between adjacent nanoseconds nor too small to register on the superchess-chronometer.

*Really* stupid rule. It would drive one to drink, but there's a stupid rule about that too. Pass the morphine, Misha.

Sep-13-09
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  Open Defence: Misha and Bronstein would have stuck that pen in that chief Arbiter...

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