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|Dec-16-08|| ||YoungEd: <patzer of patzers>: I think 16. Nxb5 would follow. The black Q must stay on the 7th rank, and I think 17. Nd6+ would be next. I don't know if there's a direct continuation beyond that, but the open lines against Black's king have got to be worth the investment.|
|Dec-16-08|| ||NewLine: Wow! By move 11 all White's pieces are developed except one rook, and NONE of Black's pieces are developed except the queen! Nevertheless the way White avenged Black for it was stunning!|
|Dec-16-08|| ||jovack: lot of things I would have done for marko|
|Dec-16-08|| ||shintaro go: One of the better puns by chessgames.com. Congratulations.|
|Dec-16-08|| ||moi: <patzer of patzers: what happens if 15...axb5?>|
16 Nxb5 followed by Nxd6 is very strong, eg:
16 ...Qd7 or 17... Qe7
17 Nxd6+ Kf8 (17 ...Qxd6 would quickly lead to mate after 18 Qxf7+)
|Dec-16-08|| ||desiobu: Unstoppable assault from white|
|Dec-16-08|| ||Blaise99a: Yes, it looks like it is kaput for black around move 16! |
But it looks like White can even force the position with the crazily aggressive 14. e5 instead of castling.
My trusty silicon friend recommends 14.....Ra7 as best. If 14.....d5 for example, 15. 0-0-0 where it is basically over with 15...Bg7, then the sac 16 Bb5 Kf8 17. Rf7 Qf7 18. Rf1 and it is fini. Or if 15....Ra7 there is 16. Nd5 ! and it is curtains.
But the real fun begins with 14. e5 Ra7 15. ed and now if 15....Qd6, there is the almost forced continuation: 16. Nb5 ab 17. Bb5 Bd7 18. Rf7 Qb4 19. c3 Qe4 20. Be2 Kd8 21. Rd1 ! and black is finished.
Which leaves the 15...Bd6 16. Ne4 if Be5 17 0-0-0 and the Rook is safe. Silicon friends sez best for Black here is 17....Bh2 18. 0-0-0 and although a pawn up, black has to step very very carefully.
Silicon evals is +1.75
So I would definitely advise against Black ever playing anything near this opening variation.
I do find it amazing that white can push even faster in this opening with impunity!
|Dec-16-08|| ||Blaise99a: One last point concerning the variation 15 ed Bd6 16. Nb5 , white is not forced to take it, in fact it is wiser not to. But if say 16.....Qe7 there is 17. Na7 Qf6 18. Nc8 Qb2 19. Rd1 Qc3 20. kf1 Qc8...and it looks like black might hang on but.....21. Qe5 ! Rg8 22. Rb1 and it is bad for black. 22....f6 23. Qh5+ then ke7 24. Qh7+ Rg7 25. Qe4 and all the winning chances are with white.|
|Dec-16-08|| ||DwayneMeller: This is a sacrificial masterpiece! None of the sacs can be stopped as accepting or declining results in failure. This is going in my game collection called <Traps and exploitation>. The Bb5 sac reminds me of Tal Koblencs Training Game Riga 1957 although this game is much diffrent it's the fact that it can't be taken for so long on b5...but in this game it is never removed from the board.|
|Dec-16-08|| ||computer chess guy: In this opening, 8. .. ♗b7 is more frequent, and better.|
Black could have been even more greedy with 10.. ♕xh2, which at least prevents the attack with ♕a5, but after 11. ♕f3 ♘h6 12. g3, the Queen is running out of squares and Black is still undeveloped.
|Dec-16-08|| ||Riverbeast: Christiansen shows some of his famous tactical talent....At his best he was always a dangerous attacking player|
|Dec-16-08|| ||nimzo knight: I like how the knight on e3 defends the 7th rank. Pretty much making the rook useless there.|
|Dec-16-08|| ||whiteshark: Look sharp! You are behind your time!|
|Dec-16-08|| ||njchess: I'm surprised Black didn't try to grab another pawn with 10. ... Qxh2. I mean if solid developing play wasn't a reason to not grab the f4 pawn, why should it prevent grabbing the h2 pawn?!!? (I'm being sarcastic, not serious e.g. 10. ... Qxh2?? 11. Qf3 f6 12. e5 and the game is over.)|
Black doesn't have a whiff of counterplay after move 14. Brutal attacking play from Christiansen.
|Dec-16-08|| ||WhiteRook48: can't understand the pun...|
|Dec-16-08|| ||patzer of patzers: thanks, <moi> and <YoungEd>.|
<WhiteRook48>, <holland oats> says (and I happen to agree) that it's a pun on the phrase "threw his timing off", apparently with a southern drawl...
|Dec-16-08|| ||Chessmensch: Interestingly, just before I logged onto this, I was playing through Kavalek's analysis of this game in Monday's Washington Post. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...|
|Jan-05-09|| ||hedgeh0g: Great game by Christiansen. I would probably have taken the pawn, but I'm below 2000, so that's alright :P|
|Dec-01-10|| ||elohah: Anything in my bag of tricks today??
What's this? A game by Larry Christmas Pants?? Hee hee hee!
Let's Baby-Step thru ALL of the devastating tactical points!
What about 10...Qxh2 ?
That's bad. Start with 11 Qf3!
The four candidates are all dumping:
(1) 11...Qh4+ 12 g3 Qe7 13 e5 Rb8 14 Ne4 Kd8 15 Nd6 f6 16 Ba7 Kc7 17 Bxb8+ Kxb8 18 Nxc8 Kxc8 19 Qa8+ Kc7 20 Qa7+, reaming.
(2) 11...Nh6 12 g3! (idea-Rh1) wins.
(3) 11...f6 12 g3! again.
(4) 11...Nf6? 12 e5 wins.
Conclusion: 10...Qxh2? is not possible.
The game continued 10...Qc7 11 Qh5.
What about alternatives to 11...Nf6 ?
(1) 11...g6? 12 Qf3 f6 13 Bxf6 wins.
(2) 11...Nh6? 12 g4! looks strong.
(3) 11...d6? 12 Nxb5! axb5 13 Bxb5+ Kd8 14 Qxf7!! (did you miss that one?) If 14...Qxf7 15 Rxf7, threatening B, and also Bb6 MATE!
if 14...Nf6 15 Bxf6+ Be7 16 Qxg7 wins. If 14...Qa5+ 15 Bc3, and Black is wiped.
|Dec-01-10|| ||elohah: Why was 14 Qxf7!! much stronger than 14 Rxf7? Because it threatened TWO points - f8 AND e8! The rook could not do that. It is about MAXIMIZATION kids, and I have mentioned already looking for forcing moves that do TWO things at once! Learn it!|
What about after Christiansen's 16 Rf3 in the game? Why doesn't Black take the B then?
If 16...axb5 17 Nxb5 Qe7 18 Nxd6 (needless to say, this would have been even stronger had Black played 15...axb5?, since this would have been check now; I'm showing here how even a ONE tempo gain [just on the Q] still wins.) f6 19 e5 f5 20 g4! Bxe5 21 gf wins.
17! Christiansen's tactical play is often amusing. White threatens 18 Rd8+! If 17...Kg8 18 Rd8+ Bf8 19 Re8! wins.
If 17...Ra7, 18 Qc5! (once AGAIN, hitting c8, AND threatening Rd8+! - learning?) will win even if ...Bh6+ is thrown in.
If 17...f5 18 ef ef 19 Nd5! wins.
|Dec-01-10|| ||elohah: If 17...f6 18 e5 f5 ( 18...axb5 19 ef Bxf6 20 Nd5! wins.) 19 g4 probably wins. Crisper is 19 Rxf5+! exf5 20 Nd5 Bxe5 21 Nxe7 with Nxc8 next; (if 21...Kxe7, just 22 Rd5 wins - and throwing in the cheese check doesn't work this time: 22...Bf4+ 23 Kd1 axb5 24 Qf4+ Ke6 25 Qxf4 Kxd5 26 Qf3+! - but nice try.)|
|Dec-01-10|| ||elohah: And that was 24 Qh4+. I'm hurrying, because they're turning off the system in 5 min. (so if you're trying to knife in, don't.)|
Well, it looks like that's it!
ChristiPatch finds another way to kick the Q off the diagonal on move 19, and the rest is a wipe!
WHAT a charming tactical display!!
|Dec-03-10|| ||elohah: Why do I keep missing mates??
Yeah, in the second posting here - last sentence given: 'If 17...f5 18 ef? ef 19 Nd5?? wins.
Well, not quite. 19...Qe1 is then MATE!
But this is easily corrected. If 17...f5 18 Rxf5+! exf5 19 Nd5! wins.
The same line as given next under 'If 17...f6 18 e5,' etc. It isn't essential that the pawn be at e5 here. It could just as well be at e4, or even e3.
So that takes care of my only mistake here.
|Dec-25-11|| ||gun0m: game is true TAL style...|
|Mar-16-12|| ||Norbi506: Good stuff. I think that blacks plan was Qxf4. After rook f1 and Qh5 black was thinking; "why didnt i castle"?!|
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