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|Jan-17-09|| ||offtherook: Chuky noooo! So close to time control... *sobs*|
|Jan-18-09|| ||kurtrichards: A give away?|
|Jan-18-09|| ||cannibal: If you look at the position around move 25, it's hard to believe that white could even get into trouble, with the bishop pair and the active rook.
I guess in the final position, he's not actually lost, but it's not a trivial draw either.|
So was d5 really necessary? Or did he just panic there in time trouble? Cause giving up the bishop pair AND giving your opponent a passer seems a bit much for just that doubled f-pawn black gets.
|Jan-18-09|| ||percyblakeney: Smeets doesn't really have any advantage in the final position since the d-pawn is falling, for example 40. Rc4 Rd1+ 41. Kf2 d3 42. Rd4+ Ke7 43. Rb3 with a small but meaningless edge for Ivanchuk.|
|Jan-18-09|| ||shintaro go: How does a blitz king encounter so much time trouble in classical controls? Remember in Bilbao, the first round against Anand, he had time control issues as well. Maybe it's a first round thing with Chucky.|
|Jan-18-09|| ||jacqueslaumone: A video of the press conference after the game:
|Jan-18-09|| ||Eyal: <KingG: It's interesting that Ivanchuk wasn't willing to take Smeets on in the Botvinnik Variation after 6.e4, and instead played 6.a4. But I guess it makes sense not to play something so sharp when you outrate your opponent by 178 points.>|
And it almost paid off, since - as Smeets himself pointed out in the press conference - he got into a difficult position after 11...c5? and would have been on the ropes had Ivanchuk come up with 23.a6! (23...b6 24.Bxb6!).
|Jan-18-09|| ||Eyal: <How does a blitz king encounter so much time trouble in classical controls? [...] Maybe it's a first round thing with Chucky.>|
Not necessarily... see also:
Ivanchuk vs Carlsen, 2008 (and the video at http://www.chessvibes.com/videos/mo...)
Ivanchuk vs Aronian, 2008
<Ivanchuk took one of his usual trips to the moon and turned a forced win against Aronian into a tougher win and then into a loss with a few seconds left on his clock. Horrible. He did this a couple of times here last year as well, though then it was usually turning wins into draws.> (http://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt...)
|Jan-18-09|| ||Salaskan: I wonder how Ivanchuk manages to lose on time on move 40. Couldn't he just have immediately made the first move that got into his mind? The final position isn't particularly difficult, and almost any move would be enough for at least a draw.|
|Jan-19-09|| ||notyetagm: <KingG: When will Ivanchuk learn to manage his time properly?>|
To make things even worse, WGM Muhren (http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/c...) says that Ivanchuk spent the first 10(!) minutes of his clock time walking around looking at other games! Those 10 minutes Ivanchuk wasted would have come in real handy right around move 40, no?
It is for reasons like this that Ivanchuk will probably never be WC. Not practical enough.
|Jan-19-09|| ||offtherook: <notyetagm> In a WC match, there wouldn't be other games going on for him to wander around watching. Fewer distractions.|
|Jan-19-09|| ||notyetagm: <offtherook: <notyetagm> In a WC match, there wouldn't be other games going on for him to wander around watching. Fewer distractions.>|
I understand that.
But do you think World Champion Anand would waste the first 10 minutes of one of his games at Corus by wandering around to kibitz other games? It's Ivanchuk's whole mindset I am talking about.
|Jan-19-09|| ||andymac: <notyetagm>, I agree. Frankly, I don't think spending 10 minutes looking at other games shows much respect for your opponent. OK, so he's 170 Elo points lower than Chucky, but he's still a decent GM. |
It's for this reason that I am pleased Smeets won (and he's Dutch, like the missus).
|Jan-19-09|| ||drawocoward: <ays that Ivanchuk spent the first 10(!) minutes of his clock time walking around looking at other games! Those 10 minutes Ivanchuk wasted would have come in real handy right around move 40, no?>|
Serves him right then, that he lost.
|Jan-19-09|| ||I Like Fish: outta style... outta time...
|Jan-19-09|| ||Augalv: outta...
|Jan-19-09|| ||The Rocket: "How does a blitz king encounter so much time trouble in classical controls?"|
Has nothing to do with how fast you CAN calculate rather how he actually USES his time. the simple answer is Ivanchuk likes to think aloth.
|Jan-19-09|| ||PinnedPiece: 40.Kf2
|Jan-25-09|| ||whiteshark: Normally the first round of big events is typical of hesitation and ‘all games drawn’ while the opponents feel the water. Not so today! Blood was drawn, and it was no less than a sensation when last seed Jan Smeets toppled top ranked Vassily Ivanchuk with the black pieces. |
In the opening, Smeets could not recall his analysis in a sideline of the Botvinnik Slav 6.a4), and played the one line he did remember - a line his second GM Jan Gustafsson told him after the game was not recommended! Things got even worse: ‘I might have been a bit naive, but I thought my opponent missed <20...Rc8?!> with the trick <21.Bb3 Nc6 22.Bc5 Nxa5 23.Rxa5 b6> or <21.Bd3 Nc6 22.Bc5 Nxe5>, but then he just played <21.Be2!>” -- Smeets.
Ivanchuk took a long time on move 23, and indeed with <23.a6!>
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would have been nearly winning: <23...b6 24.Bxb6 axb6 25.dxe5>.
Instead to Jan’s great relief he opted for <23.Rb1?> when black gets out of trouble. Before the game Smeets joked with his friends about wanting to get into time scramble against last year’s blitz world champion, and his wish was granted when the Ukrainian got into time trouble and overstepped the time limit on move 40.
fm rd1 report
|Jan-26-09|| ||WACG: Ivanchuck must have lost on time since Black has only a very tiny advantage|
|Jan-26-09|| ||notyetagm: <WACG: Ivanchuck must have lost on time since Black has only a very tiny advantage>|
Yes, Chucky flagged.
The fact that the game ended on move <40> with an approximately equal position on the board is a dead giveaway.
|Jan-27-09|| ||GufeldStudent: 32. Rxb6 seems to grant white a small advantage. He could have had the better minor piece with the better pawns and given smeets a little pain in the endgame.|
|Apr-11-09|| ||just a kid: This was Smeet's only win of Corus... when Chukky flagged.To be quite frank that is no win at all.|
|Apr-12-09|| ||Alphastar: a win on time is the same amount of win as a win with a terrific attacking combination of some sort.|
|Apr-12-09|| ||blacksburg: that's what i keep telling myself in 5 min games when i hang mate in 1 for 3 moves in a row and then flag the guy...|
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