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|Jan-19-09|| ||Eyal: <Jim> Well, in a sense - yes; but the way you put it implies that to know "theory" means only to memorize a series of moves. Actually - at least on the higher levels - it's much more than that; it's a set of guidelines for what kinds of moves and plans are appropriate for different <types> of positions. Take the extreme case of Fischerandom chess - one of the main reasons it's usually played at a level which is so much lower than normal chess is that it has no "(opening) theory" to speak of; the players have to solve on their own the most basic problems starting from move 1. Of course, that's also the reason why some people like it so much. |
|Jan-19-09|| ||Jim Bartle: OK, I'll buy that. You're saying experienced players just have intuition about what are good moves or vatiations.|
There`s at least one opening I know of which seems to leave all the "guidelines" you mention behind, the Botvinnik (anti-Meran) variation of the Semi-Slav. Trying to calculate moves against a player who knows the theory deeply is suicidal.
|Jan-19-09|| ||Jack Bauer: What's your status <Jim Bartle>?|
|Jan-19-09|| ||Jim Bartle: 100% "24"-free.|
|Jan-19-09|| ||Eyal: Ivanchuk talks about the game: https://webcast.chessclub.com/blog/...|
|Jan-19-09|| ||Jack Bauer: <Jim Bartle>, if you count to 100 you'll miss 1%!|
|Jan-20-09|| ||Albertan: Ivanchuk's 7.g3 was a theoretical novelty for the position.Prior to this game only 7.e4, 7.Qxc4,7.Bxf6 and 7.e3 had been played in the position.|
According to Deep Rybka 3, Wang Yue got too aggressive when he played 9.Na7. Instead the program preferred 9.Na3 with a possible continuation being 9...Rxb2 10.Nxc4 Rb4 11.Qc2 Bb7 12.Bg2 Be4=
<Eyal>9.Na7? certainly was a mistake. He could have played 9.Na3 instead and had equality after:
9..... Rxb2 10. Nxc4 Rb4 11. Qc2 Bb7 12. Bg2
|Jan-20-09|| ||slomarko: <Albertan: Ivanchuk's 7.g3 was a theoretical novelty for the position.> indeed. you don't see every day black making a move with the white pieces.|
|Jan-20-09|| ||toastie: 7.g3 doesn't look too good, its feels like an ultra slow catalan|
|Jan-20-09|| ||MostlyAverageJoe: Lovely pun.
Relevant image: http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/...
|Jan-20-09|| ||Eyal: <The game of the day looked like it was going to be nothing more than a brief blooper when Wang Yue hung a piece against Ivanchuk on move nine. The Chinese missed 9...Rb4!, pulling the rook up short of the expected destination on b2. The knight on a7 was stuck for good and it was only a question of whether or not Wang Yue could find enough play to avoid resigning on the spot. If this is all sounding eerily familiar, congratulations, your memory goes back to May 10, 2008. That was round three of last year's M-Tel Masters, in which Wang Yue's countryman Bu Xiangzhi was on the border of resignation after nine moves against the same Ivanchuk (Ivanchuk vs Bu Xiangzhi, 2008). There was also a sac on b5 in that one, though colors were reversed.|
This case of <deja Bu> doesn't end there. Wang Yue also played on instead of adding his name to a list of humiliating miniatures. But he did a far better job of conjuring up counterplay as Ivanchuk collected the material. With a great bishop sac and a little help from Ivanchuk, Wang Yue even came very close to a miraculous recovery. But the time he spent kicking himself after his blunder had left him with very little clock and he missed 20.Qg4+! (20.Qf7 is also difficult to meet) and allowed the black king to find cover on e8. But who can resist castling with check in the middlegame? After that the white king was in more danger than Black's and the game was safely back in Ivanchuk's hands. He even finished with a nice rook sac and Wang Yue, who was literally unbeatable for most of 2008, resigned on move 25. A bizarre game.>
|Jan-20-09|| ||Samagonka: Mesmerizing attacking tactics by both players...a very enjoyable game to watch.|
|Jan-20-09|| ||TheDestruktor: Engine analysis will reveal many mistakes.
But the hell! Just throw the engines away and enjoy the wild game.
|Jan-20-09|| ||Chessdreamer: 7...Be7, S Simonenko vs V Malakhatko, 2005.|
|Jan-20-09|| ||kevin86: The condemned white queen ate a hearty meal,but then it was black who came to bat and battered white's king to rubble.|
Excuse the mixed metaphor,I know that playing with fire can gey oneself into hot water...lol
|Jan-20-09|| ||njchess: Wild game. White presses the attack, but then makes a series of less than promising knight moves resulting in the loss of a piece. Getting into tactics like this before developing your pieces, much less protecting your king, is dubious at any level. Then castling into the attack is almost always a recipe for disaster.|
|Jan-20-09|| ||WhiteRook48: great pun! There are better puns however I think.|
|Jan-20-09|| ||darth shitious: regardless of how chess programs analyze this i find it enjoyable to watch super gms leave theory and try new things over the board. Entertaining game.|
|Jan-20-09|| ||diabloprancer: How should white continue after 13...Rb6
|Jan-20-09|| ||eightbyeight: Moreover, how should BLACK continue after 26.Rb1?|
|Jan-20-09|| ||diabloprancer: <eightbyeight> 26...Qa3#|
|Jan-20-09|| ||patzer2: It would appear White missed a likely draw by perpetual with 20. Qg4+ Kc6 21. Qe4+ Kd7 22. Qg4+ Kc6 23. Qe4+ Kd7 24. Qg4+ =.|
Instead, the overly ambitious 20. 0-0-0? becomes White's undoing after 20...Ke8! 21. Qg5 Qc5! .
The final mating attack after 22. a3 Rxb2! is instructive.
In the final position, White resigns in lieu of 26. Rd2 cxd2 27. Nxd2 Qc3+ 28. Kb1 Bxh1 .
|Jan-20-09|| ||patzer2: Of course Black could try 20. Qg4+ Kd8!
21. Rd1+ Bd6 22. Qg7 Ke8! 23. 0-0 Qb6 .
|May-21-09|| ||belgradegambit: As for the pun, I would have used "Chuk Yue" or then again maybe I wouldn't.|
|May-21-09|| ||shintaro go: "Yue - Chuk" would work just fine.|
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