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Feb-05-09
 | | DarthStapler: Voted for the Albin Countergambit here |
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Feb-05-09
 | | dotsamoht: 2...c6 for the <list>. I voted on <DPLeo>'s site as well. Only Tabanus and I have voted there for this second move. I suggest others try it. The alternative is for one of us to carefully pore through the main thread and tabulate the votes. Or a premium member can search kibitzing for <list>, but that is rather tedious as well. For those who are new to The World play, when we get to the point in the game where you are unsure of how to vote, it will be reassuring to see how members whose comments you have grown to trust have voted. Please try <DPLeo>'s idea as a way to tabulate the votes. I have never played the Semi-Slav (or Slav) in OTB play, but I knew a strong player who swore by it. It should be fun. |
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| Feb-05-09 | | Karnatakiaditya: c6 for the list ... nice of UMAN to play early! |
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| Feb-06-09 | | crazymate: I did'nt like this line.
because of Qxb7 and i just felt we lost too many pawns for nothing.. but black having the rook edge does make for a pleasant ending. on move 46 we do a deflection of the defender move on his knight that wins us the rook. but when i look at it. he could have traded that knight for a bishop earlier and maybe that knight won't even be there when we get to that stage of the game. 2. c4 dxc4 3. e4 e5 4. Nf3 exd4 5. Bxc4 Nc6 6. O-O
Up to this point this line does'nt look all that bad for black. I don't like the computer move Be6 for black. but the computer likes the exchange because its black's bad bishop for white's normal good bishop. Be6 7. Bxe6 fxe6
the engine likes this for black because its getting a center pawn opening the f file for its rook. 8. Qb3 Qd7 9. Qxb7 Rb8
I think it allowed white to take the b7 pawn to get the open file for its rook. I don't think this is very good play for black.. but positionally maybe black got enough compensation for the pawn in the half open file for his rook to work on. 10. Qa6 Nf6 11. Nbd2 Be7 12.Qd3 O-O 13. h3 Rfd8 14. a3 h6 15. Nc4 a5 16. b3 e5 17. Bd2 a4 18. b4 Qe6 19.Rab1 Bd6 20. Rfe1 Nd7 21. Kh2 Ne7 22. Rbc1 Nb6 23. Na5 Re8 24. Kg1 Rf8 25. Rc2 Rf7 26. Rf1 Ng6 27. Nh2 Rff8 28. Rfc1 Nd7 29. Nc6 Rbe8 30. Nf3 Nf6 31. Qe2 Rf7
32. Rb2 Ref8 33. Ne1 Ne7 34. Na5 Nc8 35. Rbc2 Qd7 36. Nc4 Re8 37. f3 Nh5 38.Nd3 Na7 39. g4 Nf6 40. Be1 Qe6 41. Bg3 Nd7 42. Ndb2 Rb8 43. Nxa4 Be7 44. Nab2 Bg5 45. Rf1 Nb5 46. Nd3 Nc3 47. Rxc3 dxc3 48. Ndxe5 Nxe5 49. Bxe5 Bd2 50. f4
Rd7 51. Nxd2 Rxd2 52. Qf3 Rbd8 53. Bxc3 R2d3 54. f5 Qb6+ 55. Qf2 Rxc3 56. Qxb6
cxb6 57. e5 Rxh3 58. a4 Rg3+ 59. Kf2 Rxg4 60. a5 Rf4+ 61. Ke2 Rxf1 62. Kxf1
bxa5 63. bxa5 Re8 64. e6 Kf8 65. a6 Ke7 66. a7 Kf6 67. Kf2 Kxf5 68. e7 Ra8 69.
Kg3 Kf6 70. Kf4 Kxe7 71. Kf5 Kf7 72. Kf4 Rxa7 73. Kg3 Ra3+ 74. Kg2 g5 75. Kh2
Kg6 76. Kh1 h5 77. Kg2 h4 78. Kh2 Kh5 79. Kg2 g4 80. Kg1 h3 81. Kf2 Rf3+ 82.
Ke1 h2 83. Ke2 h1=N 84. Kd2 g3 85. Ke2 Rf8 86. Kd3 g2 87. Ke4 g1=B 88. Ke5 Ng3
89. Kd5 Kg5 90. Ke6 Ne4 91. Kd5 Kf5 92. Kc4 Ke5 93. Kb3 Kd4 94. Kb4 Rf3 95. Kb5
Kd5 96. Ka6 Rb3 97. Ka5 Bb6+ 98. Ka6 Nc5# 0-1 |
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| Feb-06-09 | | derek.mourad: i like the albin counter gambit but i also like the meran |
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| Feb-06-09 | | LaFreak II: Yeah let's go for Meran.. |
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| Feb-06-09 | | doogie: I like 2...e5. I don't see it in his opening repetoire. It might lead to some interesting play. |
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| Feb-06-09 | | doogie: For 2...e5 the best lines lead to even chances! |
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| Feb-06-09 | | crazymate: if you want to vote for dxc4.. i dont think we will get a bad position from it.. so long as you know that gambit pawn on c4 is usually ate. and e5 is a great move after e4. old game
1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. e4 e5 4.
dxe5? Qxd1+ 5. Kxd1 Nc6 6. f4 Bg4+ 7. Nf3 O-O-O+
white cannot take our e pawn because of the queen on queen pin and Bxc4 is more attractive at the moment for white anyways. .. he just gets a rotten game with his king stuck in the middle for a long time for the pawn and its not worth it. 8. Bd2 Nd4 9. Be2 Bxf3 10. Bxf3
h5 11. Rf1 Bc5 12. Kc1 Ne7 13. Nc3 a6 14. Bd1 b5 15. Be1 Ndc6 16. Be2 Kb8 17.
Bh4 Nd4 18. Bd1 Rd7 19. Kb1 Ng6 20. Be1 c6 21. g3 a5 22. Bf2 a4 23. a3 Kb7 24.
Be2 Nf8 25. Bxd4 Bxd4 26. Kc2 Ne6 27. Rad1 Nc5 28. Bf3 h4 29. Ne2 Nd3 30. Bg4
Rdd8 31. Nxd4 Rxd4 32. Kc3 c5 33. gxh4 Rxh4 34. h3 Kc7 35. Kc2 Rxe4 36. Rd2 Re3
37. Bf5 Rxf4 38. Bxd3 cxd3+ 39. Rxd3 Rxf1 40. Rxe3 Rf2+ 41. Kb1 Kd7 42. b3 axb3
43. Rxb3 Kc6 44. Rd3 Rf5 45. Rd6+ Kc7 46. Rd5 Kb6 47. h4 Rf1+ 48. Kc2 Rf2+ 49.
Kc3 Rf3+ 50. Kb2 c4 51. Rd7 g6 52. Re7 Kc6 53. Ra7 Kd5 54. Re7 Rf2+ 55. Kc3 Rf1
56. Rb7 Rf3+ 57. Kc2 Kc5 58. Kb2 Rf2+ 59. Kc3 Ra2 60. Rc7+ Kd5 61. Ra7 Ra1 62.
Ra5 Kc6 63. Kb4 Rb1+ 64. Kc3 Rb3+ 65. Kc2 Kb6 66. Ra8 Rh3 67. e6 fxe6 68. Rb8+
Kc5 69. Rc8+ Kd4 70. Rd8+ Ke4 71. Rb8 Rb3 72. Rb6 Kd5 73. Kd2 e5 74. Kd1 Kc5
75. Ra6 Rd3+ 76. Kc2 Rh3 77. Ra5 Rh2+ 78. Kd1 Rh1+ 79. Kc2 e4 80. Ra8 Rxh4 81.
Re8 Kd4 82. Rd8+ Ke3 83. Rd6 g5 84. Rg6 Rh2+ 85. Kc3 Ra2 86. a4 Rxa4 87. Rxg5
Ra3+ 88. Kb2 b4 89. Kb1 Kd4 90. Rg6 e3 91. Re6 Rd3 92. Kc2 b3+ 93. Kb2 Rd2+ 94.
Ka3 b2 95. Ka2 c3 96. Rd6+ Kc4 97. Rg6 Rd1 98. Rg4+ Kd3 99. Ka3 Ra1+ 100. Kb4
b1=Q+ 101. Kc5 Ra5+ 102. Kc6 Ra6+ 103. Kc7 c2 104. Rg1 Qxg1 105. Kc8 c1=Q+ 106.
Kd8 Qg7 107. Ke8 Qc8# 0-1 |
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| Feb-06-09 | | jokopov: I voted 2....e6. |
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| Feb-06-09 | | crazymate: 1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3.e3 (with ideas of Bxc4 after whatever black plays.)
good for white probably white is better by about a quarter pawn. e6 ragozin
c6 slav
e5 albine
dxc4 QGA
Nc6 - chinese checkers..
Nf6 - transposition/ we want to play it but probably next move. |
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Feb-06-09
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: People who fear the Exchange Slav could try 2...e6; 3.Nc3,c6, and if 4.Nf3,Nf6 and all is well. But after 3...c6, White does have the potent gambit 4.e4!?,dxe4; 5.Nxe4,Bb4+; 6.Bd2,Qxd4; 7.Bxb4,Qxe4+; 8.Be2. I'm not sure we want to face this. I voted for 2...c6 because the Slav has become so rich in complications for both sides, and because the Exchange Slav is nothing to fear. So White runs to the shelter of the nearest draw--isn't that a compliment? |
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Feb-06-09
 | | sofouuk: <An Englishman> the 4 e4 gambit is not dangerous for Black in computer-assisted CC. There is no way Umansky will play that |
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| Feb-06-09 | | kkshethin: I voted for 2..c6. I predict that game will be fun and will be short |
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| Feb-06-09 | | 7Heaven: i don't like slav or semi-slav. let;s go for tarrasch or orthodox defense |
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| Feb-06-09 | | assioma: 2...c6 intending Semi Slav |
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| Feb-06-09 | | blacksburg: 2...c6 |
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Feb-06-09
 | | lost in space: voted 2...c6, according to our preparations |
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Feb-06-09
 | | Hesam7: 2...c6, semi-Slav. |
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Feb-06-09
 | | Tomlinsky: 2...c6. 4...a6 Chebanenko gets my vote if GMU plays as expected. |
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Feb-06-09
 | | moronovich: 2..c6.Keeping the options open. |
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| Feb-06-09 | | Paraconti: 2..c6. Let's go for something more double edged with chances for both sides rather than insipid 2..e6 or dxc4, or overly ambitious 2..Nf6 or 2..c5 |
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| Feb-06-09 | | carelessfills: c6, since that's the plan. it's a direction that i have never played before in my life but something i think i could learn from and even contribute too, at least a little later on. of course p-k3 (e6) is very solid, but of less interest to me, since i quit that long ago, and lean mostly to KID. would love to add something new to my repetoire and what better way to learn. was 1800+ USCF in the 70's, but inactive for nearly 30 years. good luck team.... |
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| Feb-06-09 | | Waitaka: <sbevan> My pleasure. |
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| Feb-06-09 | | zanshin: <drkodos: I am sure you will do it. I mean after all, what is there to really do?> LOL! According to you, quite a lot! |
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