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| Feb-06-09 | | Woody Wood Pusher: < zanshin: <drkodos: I am sure you will do it. I mean after all, what is there to really do?> LOL! According to you, quite a lot!>
HAHAHA
Checkmate my not-so-good Herr Doctor! |
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| Feb-06-09 | | Waitaka: <whiteshark: <Waitaka> Big list. Umansky losing the Slav were blitz games (no 14+15) or freestyle, with 2hrs, I think; (no 16) .> It makes me wonder about our opponents OTB rating...
Arno Nickel: 2119 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?...) FIDE Master Timmerman: 2260 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?...) International Master Umansky: 2467 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?...) Grand Master Yuri Shulman: 2639 (http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?...) |
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| Feb-06-09 | | Woody Wood Pusher: Was Arno really only 2119 OTB? |
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| Feb-06-09 | | Waitaka: <Woody Wood Pusher: Was Arno really only 2119 OTB?> Unless I did find another Arno Nickel on FIDE site... |
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| Feb-06-09 | | Woody Wood Pusher: < Waitaka: <Woody Wood Pusher: Was Arno really only 2119 OTB?> Unless I did find another Arno Nickel on FIDE site...> Yea, I was just thinking this doesn't bode well for the Umansky game, a full 300 points higher OTB plus a CC expert. Sheesh. |
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| Feb-06-09 | | paavoh: FIDE rankings do not matter much with CC GMs, and they invest little if any interest and/or time for OTB games. IMO, comparisons of OTB ratings between strong CC players are rather useless. |
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| Feb-06-09 | | dougrhess: I'm sure c6 will win, but e5 seems more "fun". Why not use this game to try out something a bit wild and maybe we discover some new theory? Or maybe collectives of people are risk averse?
Suggestiong for chessgames: consider "theme games" for these "play the master" games? Like, I dunno, From's gambit with Schiller as black, etc. |
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| Feb-06-09 | | chillosoph: c6..Go semi-slav! |
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| Feb-06-09 | | classF: M Umansky vs R Langeveld, 2006 a rare correspondence loss by Umansky.
Therefore I voted for 2...dxc4 |
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| Feb-06-09 | | Shajmaty: Voted 2...c6 (Slav, Semi-Slav)... but please don't go for 4...a6! |
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| Feb-06-09 | | bigchris: after seeing a picture, i just realized that GM Yuri Shulman was our top board at UTD. i met him one time in 2000 when i went by to check out the chess club. he was by himself studying some position, and i've always kicked myself for not challenging him to a game. that would have been awesome! |
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Feb-06-09
 | | kwgurge: <classF: M Umansky vs R Langeveld, 2006
a rare correspondence loss by Umansky.
Therefore I voted for 2...dxc4>
I would think that since he still plays 1.d4 at CC chess he's researched a cure for that rare loss. |
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Feb-06-09
 | | dotsamoht: Are we so sure Umansky won't try the Shabalov Attack? Just because he has not played it before now does not mean he will not try something new (for him). Kramnik seems to have trouble with the line...
Morozevich vs Kramnik, 2008 |
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| Feb-06-09 | | Whack8888: Nc6 for the poll -- Chigorin was the man of the 19th century |
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| Feb-06-09 | | Chesskid23: lets go for the slav. c6 |
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| Feb-06-09 | | medstu56: how is ...e6 insipid?? |
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| Feb-06-09 | | lonepsycho: <dotsamoht> It is a critical line, but we can avoid the line on moves 5 and 6. Also, accepting the gambit is not the best line. Kramnik's play was gutsy. |
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| Feb-06-09 | | lonepsycho: <classF> I don't think we can expect him to play the Center Variation of the QGA. That would be a folly in this game, and he knows that. He would play 3.e3 (or 3.Nf3, both transposing really) without a doubt. |
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Feb-06-09
 | | YouRang: Vote #184 for 2...c6 |
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Feb-06-09
 | | acirce: As Morozevich confirms in his New In Chess annotations, Kramnik was objectively quite fine until his one-move blunder 21..Be6?? (21..e4! with complicated play) after which White is suddenly winning. In correspondence you don't make such blunders. As far as I can see, Moro does not claim any definite improvement for White earlier, but suggests various alternatives like 11.Qd1 and 18.Nb3. In any event I don't think there is anything wrong with accepting the gambit. Btw, 2..c6 for me. |
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Feb-06-09
 | | reyjf: d4,d5; c4,c6: Umansky will play Nc3 ala Kasparov. |
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Feb-06-09
 | | karnak64: A thought for those voting other than ... c6 (for which I am voting): We are playing a world champion who specializes in correspondence chess. We can't trick him or fool him with an offbeat variation as he has plenty of time to sort out his best reply. I'd say ... e5, ... Bf5, ... Nf6 and ... Nc6 are out on those grounds alone. As for ... e6, well, it's okay but then we'll get the Catalan, most likely. Seen the Catalan in the hands of champs lately? We'd have a tough ride. As for the QGA, I'd play it against a lesser man, but we aren't playing a lesser man. And I'd play it if I wanted a draw, but I don't want a draw. Our best chance from here is some sort of Slav or Semi-Slav. We'll still have a tough ride, but with the counterpuncher's chance. |
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| Feb-06-09 | | felixbb: We should change our move for 1. ...e5. It's way more interesting than 1. ...c6 (at least that's my opinion) and it gives black better chances to take the advantage. |
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| Feb-06-09 | | simondt: Hi everyone. This is my first time playing on 'The World' team and I thought I'd add my contribution. It seems to me that if we're serious about winning this (which I assume we are ) we should play the best tried and tested lines. Therefore for me it's narrowed down really to 2...e6 2...c6 or accepting the gambit. I don't think that we're going to find any ingenious move within the first few moves so we should concentrate on getting into a good middle-game position from which we can then maybe choose to deviate from the norm.
My choice is 2...c6 to avoid the Catalan and allow the queen's bishop to be developed easily. I've played too many QGDs where I've effectively been playing a bishop down for the majority of the game because of the e6 pawn. Anyway, good luck everyone! |
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| Feb-06-09 | | Chachaman: No. I'd say that e6 holds good chances for a draw, and if he makes a mistake, then we could sort out a win. It doesn't matter which move we choose at this stage, as long as it's ...e6 or ...c6. |
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