Feb-06-09
 | | KingG: Any King's Indian experts care to comment on this game? I have trouble believing that White isn't much better after the exchange of light squared bishops. What I don't understand is the move 18.g3. As I understand these things, the point of the LSB is to be able to break through with an eventual bishop sacrifice on h3 after playing g5-g4-g3 against White's pawn on f3. Or maybe a sacrifice on g4 if White plays g4 first. In light of this, 18.f3 makes much more sense to me since Black won't have this sacrifice. So why give Black a different target by playing g3? The move 12...f4, before White has played f3 also looks a bit suspicious to me. Anyway, I'm not ashamed to admit I don't really understand what's going on despite the fact that I play the KID with both colours, and I look forward to some explanations from stronger players. |
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Dec-23-09
| | KingG: It's still not clear to me why White isn't much better after 18.f3. Anyone want to help? |
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| Feb-13-10 | | conard3: I think it because whites advantage is on the queensside and by spending a tempo to shore up his kingside he allows his advantage on the queenside to dissipate. Although i think playing g3 implies playing gxh4 if a6. So thats even worse for white to play g3 and not follow up with gxh4. I'm not saying gxh4 is good but it shows that g3 was really bad. But, the point of f3 allows a6 driving back whites position. c6 is a common motiff there to try to entomb the weakness on c7. |
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Nov-28-10
| | KingG: <conard3>
<I think it because whites advantage is on the queensside and by spending a tempo to shore up his kingside he allows his advantage on the queenside to dissipate.>
Yes, White has an advantage on the Queen-side, and it is a long-term one, which is exactly why I think he should spend a tempo consolidating thing on the K-side with a completely standard move.<Although i think playing g3 implies playing gxh4 if a6. So thats even worse for white to play g3 and not follow up with gxh4. I'm not saying gxh4 is good but it shows that g3 was really bad.>
19.gxh4 axb5 20.axb5 f3, and White will come under a very dangerous attack. <But, the point of f3 allows a6 driving back whites position. c6 is a common motiff there to try to entomb the weakness on c7.>
After 18.f3 a6 19.Nc3 White just seems to have a great position to me. He is nowhere near ready to play ...c6, assuming that would even help him much, and the pawn on a6 gives some extra bite to and eventual b5 (which is probably coming immediately). In fact, White probably wants to move his knight off b5 anyway, so that he can move his pawn, so he is happy for Black to waste a tempo forcing him to do it. 
click for larger viewLooking at this position, which would arise after 18.f3, I just can't understand how White can't much better. Black's pieces are not well placed, he has lost his important light squared bishop, and White has made good progress on the Queen-side. Obviously White still has to be careful, but as far as I can tell this is almost a dream position for the player on the White side of the King's Indian. |
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